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Re: Claude 3 model family

#61

Surpassing GPT4 is huge for any model, very impressive to pull off. But then again...GPT4 is a year old and OpenAI has not yet revealed their next-gen model.

Sure, OpenAI's next model would be expected to regain the lead, just due to their head start, but this level of catch-up from Anthropic is extremely impressive.

Bear in mind that GPT-3 was published ("Language Models are Few-Shot Learners") in 2020, and Anthropic were only founded after that in 2021. So, with OpenAI having three generations under their belt, Anthropic came from nothing (at least in terms of models - of course some team members had the know-how of being ex. OpenAI) and are, temporarily at least, now ahead of OpenAI in some of these benchmarks.

I'd assume that OpenAI's next-gen model (GPT-5 or whatever they will choose to call it) has already finished training and is now being fine tuned and evaluated for safety, but Anthropic's cause d'etre is safety and I doubt they have skimped on this to rush this model out.

Re: Claude 3 model family

#63
Just a comment about the first chart: having the X axis in log scale to represent the cost and a Y axis without any units at all for the benchmark score seem intentionally misleading.

I don't understand the need to do that when your numbers look promising.

Re: Claude 3 model family

#64
From my testing the two top models both can do stuff only GPT-4 was able to do (also Gemini pro 1.0 couldn't)..

The pricing for the smallest model is most enticing, but it's not available to me on my account for testing..

Re: Claude 3 model family

#66
It feels absolutely amazing to build an AI startup right now:

- We struggled with limited context windows [solved]

- We had issues with consistent JSON output [solved]

- We had rate limiting and performance issues with 3rd party models [solved]

- Hosting OSS models was a pain [solved]

It's like your product becomes automatically cheaper, more reliable, and more scalable with every major LLM advancement. I'm going to test the new Claude models against our evaluation and test data soon.

Obivously you still need to build up defensibility and focus on differentiating with everything “non-AI”.

Re: Claude 3 model family

#67
I've been skeptical of Anthro over the past few months, but this is huge win for them and the AI community. In Satya's words, things like this will make OpenAI "dance"!

Re: Claude 3 model family

#68
Just signed up for Claude Pro to try out the Opus model. Decided to throw a complex query at it, combining an image with an involved question about SDXL fine tuning and asking it to do some math comparing the cost of using an RTX 6000 Ada vs an H100.

It made a lot of mistakes. I provided it with a screenshot of Runpod's pricing for their GPUs, and it misread the pricing on an RTX 6000 ADA as $0.114 instead of $1.14.

Then, it tried to do math, and here is the outcome:

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>Approach 1: Use the 1x RTX 6000 Ada with a batch size of 4 for 10,000 steps.

>Cost: $0.114/hr * (10,000 steps / (4 images/step * 2.5 steps/sec)) = $19.00 Time: (10,000 steps / (4 images/step * 2.5 steps/sec)) / 3600 = 0.278 hours

>Approach 2: Use the 1x H100 80GB SXMS with a batch size of 8 for 10,000 steps.

>Cost: $4.69/hr * (10,000 steps / (8 images/step * 3 steps/sec)) = $19.54 Time: (10,000 steps / (8 images/step * 3 steps/sec)) / 3600 = 0.116 hours

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You will note that .278 * $0.114 (or even the actually correct $1.14) != $19.00, and that .116 * $4.69 != $19.54.

For what it's worth, ChatGPT 4 correctly read the prices off the same screenshot, and did math that was more coherent. Note, it saw that the RTX 6000 Ada was currently unavailable in that same screenshot and on its own decided to substitute a 4090 which is $.74/hr, also it chose the cheaper PCIe version of the H100 Runpod offers @ $3.89/hr:

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>The total cost for running 10,000 steps on the RTX 4090 would be approximately $2.06.

>It would take about 2.78 hours to complete 10,000 steps on the RTX 4090. On the other hand:

>The total cost for running 10,000 steps on the H100 PCIe would be approximately $5.40.

>It would take about 1.39 hours to complete 10,000 steps on the H100 PCIe, which is roughly half the time compared to the RTX 4090 due to the doubled batch size assumption.

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Re: Claude 3 model family

#69

It feels absolutely amazing to build an AI startup right now: - We struggled with limited context windows [solved] - We had issues with consistent JSON output [solved] - We had rate limiting and performance issues with 3rd party models [solved] - Hosting OSS models was a pain [solved] It's like your product becomes automatically cheaper, more reliable, and more scalable with every major LLM advancement. I'm going to…

I'd argue it's actually risky to build an AI startup now. Most any feature you bring to the table will be old news when the AI manufacturers add that to their platform.

Re: Claude 3 model family

#70

I don't put a lot of stock on evals. many of the models claiming gpt-4 like benchmark scores feel a lot worse for any of my use-cases. Anyone got any sample output? Claude isn't available in EU yet, else i'd try it myself. :(

> I don't put a lot of stock on evals.

Same, although they are helpful for setting expectations for me. I have some use cases (I'm hesitant to call them evals) related to how we use GPT for our product that are a good "real world" test case. I've found that Claude models are the only ones that are up to par with GPT in the past.

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