People are trying to claim real videos are deepfakes

Post by ranger_danger » Tue, May 09, 2023, 12:23 PM UTC

Raidion wrote: post #58

infinitifall wrote: post #28

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What would "additional confirmation" look like? Are audio/video recordings I take with my phone going to be useless in a decade because deepfakes are virtually indistinguishable and there is no "additional confirmation"?

Useless? No. Possibly open to being faked? Yes. Lots of ways to sign photos and videos today that should make them fully verifiable in the future (assuming public/private key cryptography remains secure). For stuff that isn't signed, it's not like good old detective work can't verify in a lot of cases. Phone records, eye witnesses, additional unpublished recordings, etc. Also being verified really only matters when i…

Post by gray_charger » Tue, May 09, 2023, 3:01 PM UTC

ridgered4 wrote: post #51

e_i_pi_2 wrote: post #14

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This seems like the main point - it's not that court won't accept a deepfake defense, but you would have to prove that it was faked, just like any other convincing evidence

Isn't this backwards in criminal court? Wouldn't the onus be on the prosecution to prove that the video was real? This sounds ridiculous since we lived most of our lives in the video-is-real era that has sort of been coming to an end. I recall the Kyle Rittenhouse trial had an interesting take on this where the defense asked to throw out upscaled video which contrary to every police procedural TV show is a lot like j…

Post by sidewndr46 » Tue, May 09, 2023, 5:56 PM UTC

mandmandam wrote: post #169

sidewndr46 wrote: post #153

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Could you provide a reference to proceedings that went this way, where the evidence was rejected and the case ultimately dropped as a result?

OJ's bloody glove is probably the most famous example. Bill Cosby's case was also very famous, and recent. Only one victim was allowed to testify - inexplicable. The very recent Donziger case was pretty shocking; some major evidence was ignored there, along with established procedures. Then you have things going on at even higher levels, like the Supreme Court deciding not to investigate itself, or the CFR blocking w…

Post by smart_pig_w » Tue, May 09, 2023, 9:00 PM UTC

RecycledEle wrote: post #15

I have had several of my dash cam videos thrown out because "judges" thought they were faked. Even when I uploaded the video to YouTube within 24 hours of the wreck the "judge" said I had years to fake it.

Post by leobg » Thu, May 11, 2023, 4:50 PM UTC