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Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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i don't understand the hate towards ad tech that learns about you. the alternative is ads that are completely irrelevant to you, ads that treat you like some anonymous user in which case you'll get endlessly irrelevant ads for mainstream stuff like ICE cars, plastic garbage, big screen tvs, fast food, etc.

Surely you can think of some more alternatives.

I find the mainstream ads far more offensive than the ones that are accurately targeted towards me.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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We know raw LaMDA sucks compared to GPT, but we also know that a lot of the performance of GPT3.5, GPT4 and ChatGPT comes from the reinforcement learning added on top of raw GPT, so it will be interesting how Bard performs.

LLaMA is not google

He meant to say LaMDA, which is a family of Google's conversation tuned language models, a smaller of which is used in Bard.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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But AI is their turf! Google was always a ML company masquerading as a search engine. I guess that the art of "generating text" is not their kind of AI?

Right, my expectation was they had something better than OpenAI they were sitting on and afraid to release / didn't know how to make money with it and were essentially forced to show what they had once Chat GPT became a threat to search. I assume it's still possible they have something better and this is the nuked version that's "safe", but there's a reason for expectations to be high for Google here, and it really n…

> I assume it's still possible they have something better and this is the nuked version that's "safe"

Its explicitly a smaller model to save on compute costs for scaling up to more users; but that’s a questionable decision given the situation with OpenAI’s accessible models and, if you are going to do that, why also do a slow-roll waitlist? I think both are signs of the kind of caution that will hurt Google in this market, even though the tech is near to the heart of what they do, the product isn’t, and they’ve gone very established-corp-cautious on products outside of their core.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Somehow I have the idea that the general sentiment is that people hope Google fails with Bard. Or at least does something stupid. Is it just me? (Not saying it is a good thing)

Who doesn't enjoy a bit of schadenfreude when it comes to lazy, bloated, arrogant multibillion dollar corporations like Google?

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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BAH. "This Google Account isn’t supported" "Bard does not currently support Google Workspace accounts or when our systems indicate you may be under 18." Smooth move, Google. PAYING Workspace customers should be the first ones to get access. This blows my mind. Oh wait, no… it doesn't. They did this with other devices and apps too. You couldn't use your Workspace account. You had to use a personal account. Really dumb…

prolly some legal stuff

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Bard is "powered by LaMDA". So it's at the bare minimum an interface to LaMDA. I don't know exactly what's being added to make it distinct from LaMDA, but it is being pushed as LaMDA with extra bits.

Bard is smaller lambda model than the best one that have

source?

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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> Bard may display inaccurate or offensive information that doesn't represent Google's views

Yes, let's ship something to the general public that we know will go on racist tirades. It only took a few back and forth exchanges. Gonna pass on this one.

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Surely you can think of some more alternatives.

I find the mainstream ads far more offensive than the ones that are accurately targeted towards me.

Hint: the alternatives don't involve ads.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Google has the tendency to do this when they aren't the first to set foot on new land. Don't get me wrong, they get a lot of things very right: Gmail works perfectly, I can't find a single reason to change my pixel for anything else, search, although there's been a lot of deterioration in the past couple of years, is still second to none. That said, self driving cars, google+, duo and all the other services they laun…

But AI is their turf! Google was always a ML company masquerading as a search engine. I guess that the art of "generating text" is not their kind of AI?

Google is an ad company.

ML just happens to be good for targeting ads.

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