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Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

#181
BAH.

"This Google Account isn’t supported"

"Bard does not currently support Google Workspace accounts or when our systems indicate you may be under 18."

Smooth move, Google. PAYING Workspace customers should be the first ones to get access. This blows my mind. Oh wait, no… it doesn't. They did this with other devices and apps too. You couldn't use your Workspace account. You had to use a personal account.

Really dumb. You'd think they would give the good stuff to the people PAYING them, first.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

#182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It works in GPT-4 (but not GPT-3.5) even without a special tokenizer: Some problems simply solve themselves with increasing scale. But Bard uses a smaller LaMDA model to reduce inference cost. Quote [1] from Sundar Pichai in February: > We’re releasing it initially with our lightweight model version of LaMDA. This much smaller model requires significantly less computing power, enabling us to scale to more users, allo…

I don't think it works reliably over 100 invokations of the prompt. The paper tries to get provable situations where 0 ignored constraints happen/are possible. I'm impressed that it is working more often than not, but we need provable guarantees.

If you ask 100 humans the same thing, you'll get some mistakes too. I don't think the point is whether it makes mistakes. The Chat GPT response shown above is clearly more interesting and impressive / displays something more seemingly like intelligence than the Bard response provided. At some point scaling these things up enough becomes indistinguishable from intelligence, and at that point maybe it is.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

#183
post #86

"Bard does not currently support Google Workspace accounts or when our systems indicate you may be under 18." Why specify both conditions - if google isnt sure which one of "under 18" or "logged in with a paid account" it is then they are not putting their best on the job.

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Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

#184
So frustrating still so many limitations with using a Google Workplace account, even if it's a single user account. With any other company product it doesn't matter that one is using a Google Workplace email but when using Google Home (and trying to invite non workplace users or vice versa) no go, or other products that simply say no go or with limitations.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

#185

Somehow I have the idea that the general sentiment is that people hope Google fails with Bard. Or at least does something stupid. Is it just me? (Not saying it is a good thing)

Can’t speak for anyone else, but I hope for the entire companies demise, as I do for any ad tech surveillance operation.

i don't understand the hate towards ad tech that learns about you. the alternative is ads that are completely irrelevant to you, ads that treat you like some anonymous user in which case you'll get endlessly irrelevant ads for mainstream stuff like ICE cars, plastic garbage, big screen tvs, fast food, etc.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

#186

Somehow I have the idea that the general sentiment is that people hope Google fails with Bard. Or at least does something stupid. Is it just me? (Not saying it is a good thing)

I don't hope that it fails. I just don't trust them with new services because they have a bad history of killing everything that's not generating billions. So probably I won't even bother using it, unless it blows ChatGPT out of the water.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

#187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can’t speak for anyone else, but I hope for the entire companies demise, as I do for any ad tech surveillance operation.

i don't understand the hate towards ad tech that learns about you. the alternative is ads that are completely irrelevant to you, ads that treat you like some anonymous user in which case you'll get endlessly irrelevant ads for mainstream stuff like ICE cars, plastic garbage, big screen tvs, fast food, etc.

Surely you can think of some more alternatives.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

#188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google has the tendency to do this when they aren't the first to set foot on new land. Don't get me wrong, they get a lot of things very right: Gmail works perfectly, I can't find a single reason to change my pixel for anything else, search, although there's been a lot of deterioration in the past couple of years, is still second to none. That said, self driving cars, google+, duo and all the other services they laun…

But AI is their turf! Google was always a ML company masquerading as a search engine. I guess that the art of "generating text" is not their kind of AI?

Sounds like after the last decade and a half of Google flexing their AI muscle, maybe they are a search company masquerading as an AI company?

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

#189
post #7

Anyone know what is the origin of the name Bard? Every time I see it I think "barf"

According to ChatGPT ;) Where does the word bard come from? > The word "bard" comes from the Scottish Gaelic word "bard", which means a poet or storyteller. The term was also used in medieval Ireland and Wales to refer to poets and musicians who were highly respected members of their society. In ancient times, bards were considered to be the keepers of history and tradition, and their songs and stories were often use…

I just got access to Bard, and this is what Bard says.

  Where does the word bard come from?
> The word "bard" comes from the Old Celtic word "bardo-," which means "poet" or "singer." It is thought to be derived from the Proto-Indo-European root "gʷerH-," which means "to praise." The word was originally used to refer to the professional poets and singers of the Celtic cultures, who were responsible for composing and reciting oral traditions, such as epics, genealogies, and songs. The word "bard" came to be used more generally to refer to any poet or singer in the 16th century.

Draft 2:

> The word bard comes from the Old Celtic word "bardos" which means "poet-singer". It was first used in English in the 16th century. The Old Celtic word "bardos" is thought to be derived from the Proto-Indo-European word "gʷerH-" which means "to praise".

Draft 3 (Including a source: Wikipedia):

> The word bard comes from the Celtic languages: Gaulish: bardo- ('bard, poet'), Middle Irish: bard and Scottish Gaelic: bàrd ('bard, poet'), Middle Welsh: bardd ('singer, poet'), Middle Breton: barz ('minstrel'), Old Cornish: barth ('jester'). The ancient Gaulish *bardos is attested as bardus (sing.) in Latin and as bárdoi (plur.) in Ancient Greek.

The word bard originally referred to a Celtic poet-singer, but it has come to mean more generally a poet or singer. It is especially associated with the early Celtic cultures of Ireland and Wales, where the bards were highly respected members of society. They were responsible for composing and reciting poems, songs, and stories, and they often played an important role in preserving the oral traditions of their people.

The word bard is still used today to refer to a poet or singer, and it is also used in the names of several fictional characters, such as the Bard of Avon (William Shakespeare) and the Bard of the Highlands (Robbie Burns).

Sources - Learn more en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bard

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

#190
post #132

it's pretty damn exciting to see google actually introduce a product like that, on the web, broadly available, for once. it feels like it's been a hot minute since something got introduced like this from them. cause it's all been stuff like, 'well, it's a tiny little half-baked app. or, well, it's a device. or, well, it's a feature, but it's only on android. and only on pixel. and only in select territories and marke…

A region-locked service with a waitlist is hardly "broadly available". I can't even enter.

at least it's on the web (and there are ways around that) and not just 'a service/feature that is very specifically either tailored to a place, has some specific region-dependent requirements, or just physically only available there'
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