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U.S. bans equipment from Huawei and ZTE, citing national security concerns

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Re: U.S. bans equipment from Huawei and ZTE, citing national security concerns

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I have a handful of 'local-only' chinese import cameras (although no Dahuas). They all reach out to hard-coded IP addresses on the chinese mainland. (with no explanation why, nor a setting to turn it off) I put them on a dedicated VLAN without internet access for this reason.

google VLAN hopping

I inspect the traffic. The devices I have don't speak 802.1Q at all.

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How expensive do you think it would be allowing an entity infamous for intellectual property theft, to have unfettered access to the teleco networks of the countries that they themselves say are their greatest enemies? Yes, imported Russian nat gas is way cheaper. Until it isn't.

First I don't really think your premise is correct and second we are capable of keeping our networks secure even if a cable or a base station is made by a Chinese company.

> we are capable of keeping our networks secure even if a cable or a base station is made by a Chinese company.

Not if war breaks out. If that happens, maintenance and support channels will be weaponized and/or sanctioned.

Re: U.S. bans equipment from Huawei and ZTE, citing national security concerns

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post #186

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Two decades ago, the Chinese military was actively raiding Nortel's IP directly from their servers. Regardless of when and what the US government is doing, Huawei and ZTE's tech is built off of rampant state-sponsored IP theft and shouldn't be used and can't be trusted. https://globalnews.ca/news/7275588/inside-the-chinese-milita...

Even if they stole IP 20 years ago so what? US industrial revolution was famously started by copying ideas from Europe https://www.history.com/.amp/news/industrial-revolution-spie... . There's no way to deny that Huawei was years ahead of competition with their 5G offerings, so it seems this is much more a story about telecom becoming patent trolls rather than R&D focused companies, something something creating value…

> 20 years ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_intellectual_...

Re: U.S. bans equipment from Huawei and ZTE, citing national security concerns

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Have you been sleeping for the past 20 years? https://www.euractiv.com/section/economy-jobs/news/the-impac...

> Have you been sleeping for the past 20 years? Only about a third of them. > https://www.euractiv.com/section/economy-jobs/news/the-impac... Sorry, I'm not following how that relates to really anything in the current conversation.

the US promotes liberalism for others, but internally they promote their very own interests

double face

after blocking you from doing commerce with their enemies through multitudes of sanctions and lobbies, they'll start to punish you if you try to protect your interests

To quote the article: "Washington announced on Wednesday (2 October) that it would hit European products with punitive tariffs worth $7.5 billion after receiving the green light from the World Trade Organization (WTO), following a 15-year legal battle between aircraft manufacturers Boeing and Airbus."

Re: U.S. bans equipment from Huawei and ZTE, citing national security concerns

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post #183

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I haven't seen any unusual communication from any installed, but they're all firewalled and with WAN disallowed. The ouch was because I will have to find another vendor if they are no longer allowed to be sold in the US.

Those companies are only disallowed from use in government.

That was previously the case. This[0] announcement is that these[1] devices from these[1] manufacturers will not receive FCC authorization for use in the US moving forward.

0: https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-bans-authorizations-devices...

1: https://www.fcc.gov/supplychain/coveredlist

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A lot of Americans are American because their European ancestors got sick of European affairs and wanted a clean break from it. Nonetheless, a lot of the anti-interventionist rhetoric seen on the net today feels very astroturfed. Anybody accusing NATO of warmongering is safe to write off as a Russian-aligned troll, considering Russia is the one who actually invaded a foreign country. NATO's "war mongering" amounts to…

In other words, one is not allowed to speculate about a different outcome if NATO hadn't pushed forward so aggressively. The realism school of Mearsheimer is forbidden. Freedom of thought is one of the first casualties of the war.

All those nations decided to join NATO freely and sent an application. NATO then approved those applications. Those nations are also free to leave NATO again if they want to.

The other side annexes territories of a neighbouring souvereign nation and bombs the infrastructure to rubble with the goal of making the freezing population surrender.

Russia, like many former colonial empires, hangs onto its dreams of Greatness and Restoration. It is up to Russia to find a new befitting place and way for its nation in the international community and history. Many other former empires were forced to do the same.

Re: U.S. bans equipment from Huawei and ZTE, citing national security concerns

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post #146

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Maybe this may help US manufacturers get better deals. But I see it as a side effect. The main effect is that we should not buy key communication equipment from a country we cannot trust . Its government can strongarm any of its business entities to comply with its orders, and these orders are not going to be friendly to the US. It's a bit like buying communication equipment from the USSR. Maybe the equipment is fine…

> The main effect is that we should not buy key communication equipment from a country we cannot trust. We should not buy anything that is internet connected from a country we cannot trust.

>We should not buy anything that is internet connected from a country we cannot trust.

We should not buy anything that has non-dumb components from a country we cannot trust.

We should not buy anything that is has high-performance materials that cannot be non-destructively tested from a country we cannot trust.

Overall, we should not be buying ANYTHING AT ALL from a country we cannot trust, as literally any trade merely supports their working against our well-being.

The grand experiment was done, and it failed miserably. We all thought that increased trade and information flow would bring free markets and democracy to the autocracies of the world. We could not have been more wrong — all we did was further empower expansionist/imperialist regimes. Russia is now waging a genocidal hot war in Europe and China is more actively threatening Taiwan than at any time in at least decades, and putting Uighurs in concentration camps - all funded by our purchasing. It is past time to embargo them.

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