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Re: Bumble releases open-source A.I. feature to help combat unsolicited nudes

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Post by benj111 »

suzzer99 wrote: post #131
returnzero wrote: post #62

Many years ago (ca. 2009?) at a previous employer we had an enterprise email scanner which included a content filtering feature which could block "pornographic images". We ended up turning it off as it had too many false positives since it was an insurance company that dealt with injuries so a lot of legitimate injury photos would get classed as porn and blocked. I think it was basically looking at how much of an ima…

Google docs spell/grammar check shuts off if the word "anal" appears anywhere in a sentence. https://imgur.com/dTJmsTt For some reason "anal" and the F-bomb are the only two words I can find where it does this. The craziest part is if you type something like "analss gland" it figures out you're trying to type "anal gland" and shuts down spellcheck, even though anal gland (dogs) is a perfectly g-rated use of the word…

what happens if you miss spell a word though?

"my anal ysis shows..."

that doesnt get flagged as a spelling error?

why is it even a 'feature'? someone had to go in add a switch for the word anal to turn spell check off. it isnt like they just dont want to be involved with swear words. this is a feature that makes the app worse?!?

plus anal isnt even a swear word. how do you want me to describe the hole where the shit comes out? this is just wrong on so many levels.

Re: Bumble releases open-source A.I. feature to help combat unsolicited nudes

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Post by qubex »

capableweb wrote: post #187
sweetheart wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get why this would be incredibly annoying to a nudist, but I can’t really see a path forward that works for nudists and non nudists in this context.

> but I can’t really see a path forward that works for nudists and non nudists in this context The very comment thread your comment is in describes a method that would work for both. > on the sender's side, show a warning before sending that the image appears to be in bad taste and asking for confirmation, then on the receiver's side, hiding the image behind a warning that it may be unwanted and showing two buttons,…

That method certainly doesn’t work because it is absolutely predicated upon discrimination not respect.

Re: Bumble releases open-source A.I. feature to help combat unsolicited nudes

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Post by benj111 »

stevesimmons wrote: post #136
returnzero wrote: post #62

Many years ago (ca. 2009?) at a previous employer we had an enterprise email scanner which included a content filtering feature which could block "pornographic images". We ended up turning it off as it had too many false positives since it was an insurance company that dealt with injuries so a lot of legitimate injury photos would get classed as porn and blocked. I think it was basically looking at how much of an ima…

I used to work at a place that blocked a significant fraction of incoming Dutch emails. Eventually we figured out it rejected any message with "kunt" ("he/she can"), which is not exactly uncommon. Apparently they were flagged as deliberate attempts to circumvent the profanity filter.

Do you want to block attempts to skirt the profanity filter? How to you avoid reintroducing the Scunthorpe problem?

Jeez, darn are all mild forms of expletives, should they be blocked? What about bloody? That many anglophones would go to if you couldn't swear?

Surely if you can't use those, people are just going to say gosh instead, or Smeg or frel. Should they also be banned. Swear words exist for a reason, you can perhaps get rid of the harshest forms, you are never going to remove the need or desire for people to swear though.

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Post by formerly_proven »

mschuster91 wrote: post #189
formerly_proven wrote: post #182

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184 isn't a highlight of German legislation though. It's one of the many leftovers from the prussian police and justice system, which had a heavy emphasis on morality and decency. 184 for example also criminalizes everyone in Germany who ever uploaded porn to a site that doesn't comply with current youth protection laws (which is all of them, basically).

Fully agree that the 184 series of StGB is not up to date (e.g. that 17 year olds routinely end up in trouble with the law for sending their partners consensual pictures) and the German youth protection law is ridiculous, but the idea that sending someone unsolicited pornography is bad is a good one IMHO.

Sure, nothing wrong per se with 184(1)6 criminalizing that.

I'd argue though that this only comes about unintentionally because 184i (sexual harassment) only covers physical sexual harassment.

Meanwhile non-physical sexual harassment is completely legal in Germany unless it is an insult in itself (185).

IMHO the proper way is to mostly yeet 184 (because there is no particular reason for the state to morally regulate porn using the criminal code apart from stuff like CSAM) and criminalize sexual harassment in general (physical or not). That's of course going to be a hard sell for German conservatives (I can already see CDU and AfD go "the leftist greens dictatorship is making DATING illegal!")

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Post by javajosh »

squarefoot wrote: post #133
yosito wrote: post #130

I was permanently banned from Tinder for trying to upload a picture of myself holding a pepper from my garden. I can only assume that Tinder's AI thought the pepper looked like an unacceptable body part. I am absolutely in favor of using AI to combat unsolicited nudes as long as it's implemented something like: on the sender's side, show a warning before sending that the image appears to be in bad taste and asking fo…

> I was permanently banned from Tinder for trying to upload a picture of myself holding a pepper from my garden. I can only assume that Tinder's AI thought the pepper looked like an unacceptable body part. If that was a "peter pepper", the AI could have reacted just like a human. NSFW warning in case you search: yes, it can look very close to the real thing. I tried to grow them in my balcony among other types of chi…

A peter pepper looks like a very real flaccid human penis for all bright red and orange human males.

Re: Bumble releases open-source A.I. feature to help combat unsolicited nudes

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Post by slingnow »

thrown_22 wrote: post #122
smt88 wrote: post #66

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Dating apps are tailored to people in the top X% of attractiveness. Don't take it personally. Most people aren't successful on them, even the ones who get a lot of matches.

>Dating apps are tailored to people in the top X% of attractiveness. They aren't. I'm in the top 1% for income and top 5% for looks. I used to get no matches on tinder. I asked a few female friends to come up with a profile they thought would be more attractive. After I saw what they came up with (I have a boat, I fly first class, I'm in a holiday in Europe) I deleted it and move them to acquaintances. The type of wo…

Top 5% of looks based on what exactly?

Something about your story doesn't add up. I would certainly consider myself NOT in the top %5 of looks, and get plenty of matches. And I'm not looking for trashy women who are only into material things either.

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Post by elevenoh »

qubex wrote: post #165
yosito wrote: post #130

I was permanently banned from Tinder for trying to upload a picture of myself holding a pepper from my garden. I can only assume that Tinder's AI thought the pepper looked like an unacceptable body part. I am absolutely in favor of using AI to combat unsolicited nudes as long as it's implemented something like: on the sender's side, show a warning before sending that the image appears to be in bad taste and asking fo…

> rare as it might be, there are people of both genders who actually enjoy receiving unsolicited nudes I’m a nudist. I don’t enjoy receiving “unsolicited nudes” but a lot of acquaintances from that zone of my life do send photographs that sometimes depict them undressed in pursuit of whatever activity it is they’re depicting — usually the body in the picture is not the point of the exercise. This just impedes the day…

I'm amazed by silicon valley's general puritan/orthodox stance on nudity

Nudism is great for the soul - to anyone reading, try it!

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Post by iwillbenice »

onetimeusename wrote: post #106
jffry wrote: post #100

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This isn't some huge revelation. E2E encryption isn't something that Bumble advertises, and their privacy policy [1] plainly states: > We review the content of messages sent in the App to identify topics, sentiments, and trends across our Users. We will take steps to remove personally identifying information from such messages, prior to reviewing them. We will not share the content of User messages or information we…

We will not share the content of User messages or information we derive from them with any third party. Isn't that what the SavedModel is that they shared on googleapis.com right here? https://storage.googleapis.com/private_detector/private_dete... edit: and for the record if your messages on a dating app are not E2E encrypted then you are making a terrible mistake. I can't believe anyone would voluntarily make this…

> edit: and for the record if your messages on a dating app are not E2E encrypted then you are making a terrible mistake. I can't believe anyone would voluntarily make this decision.

Reality goes something like this: You roll out your E2EE dating app, it gets successful, you're winning bigly. Then cops show up with an order from a judge demanding you hand over information regarding user #890202 because they are suspected of using your platform to entice minors into sexual activity. This is usually where the E2EE worship falls flat, for legitimate societal reason.

If you want E2EE you need to use a dedicated app specifically ONLY for that (Signal, WhatsApp, etc). Any time you bolt on other business or incentives and then use E2EE as the messaging platform you will discover a world of pain in my opinion.

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