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Re: Bumble releases open-source A.I. feature to help combat unsolicited nudes

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Post by qubex »

As a nudist I find it increasingly frustrating battling all these well-meaning impediments every firm seems to be throwing up everywhere for the sake of combating pornography.

Latest discovery is that iOS’s new “press to copy person” doesn’t work if the person is undressed, which makes sense if they’re trying to ensure it doesn’t facilitate copy-and-paste porn of the lowest calibre but… sheesh.

I don’t understand why so much effort gets sunk into this arms race between people who want to distribute material featuring naked humans and firms that are doing their darnest to make it impossible.

Re: Bumble releases open-source A.I. feature to help combat unsolicited nudes

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Post by godmode2019 »

vidarh wrote: post #149
godmode2019 wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm relevantly good looking, no problem with getting a beautiful woman IRL, but on dating apps I get no matches. Or if I do its girls who are either average or tinder addicts who everyone should avoid. My working theory is on a dating app woman have unlimited access, so tend to go torwards the top 99.9% of men. Solution: Shadow ban hyper attractive people. Solution 2: Only show people a similar level of attractivenes…

A less dramatic version of your first solution is to show a profile progressively less the more matches are pending, and the more selective you are in rejecting pending matches. Couple that with trying to predict likely matches and weight towards showing profiles which are likely to match and you would likely approach solution 2 without explicitly focusing only on attractiveness. But at the same time you'll have kill…

How do dating apps make money? They were all prerevenue last time I used one.

I think trying to move away from images is a good idea, so people can showcase their worth to better compete with the physical gifted people who benefit from images.

I thought of a idea where you have to have a reel 10second video showcasing 5 traits

Let's say, you see the list of options and choose

Cooking Humour Adventure Intellect Strength

Say those are your traits, your reel will show case them. With the aim of creating relationships rather than hook ups.

Re: Bumble releases open-source A.I. feature to help combat unsolicited nudes

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Post by koolba »

panda-giddiness wrote: post #155
yosito wrote: post #130

I was permanently banned from Tinder for trying to upload a picture of myself holding a pepper from my garden. I can only assume that Tinder's AI thought the pepper looked like an unacceptable body part. I am absolutely in favor of using AI to combat unsolicited nudes as long as it's implemented something like: on the sender's side, show a warning before sending that the image appears to be in bad taste and asking fo…

> Yet, as rare as it might be, there are people of both genders who actually enjoy receiving unsolicited nudes. And people who enjoy sexual pickup lines. The judgement call of what is/isn't going to be attractive or appropriate ought be to left in the hands of the individuals dating as much as possible rather than controlled by a priest at a tech company. I don't understand. Are you suggesting that Bumble should allo…

> Are you suggesting that Bumble should allow users to send unsolicited nudes to strangers, despite the vast majority of women not appreciating that? Why would any company want to intentionally degrade the experience of roughly half their users?

Why must it be one or the other? They could have a per-user flag to opt in to unsolicited nudes.

Even better, a more fine grained series of flags or enums indicating the level of nudity, topless, bottomless, or even background scenery (to be able to filter out, or in, public nudity).

Re: Bumble releases open-source A.I. feature to help combat unsolicited nudes

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Post by yosito »

panda-giddiness wrote: post #155
yosito wrote: post #130

I was permanently banned from Tinder for trying to upload a picture of myself holding a pepper from my garden. I can only assume that Tinder's AI thought the pepper looked like an unacceptable body part. I am absolutely in favor of using AI to combat unsolicited nudes as long as it's implemented something like: on the sender's side, show a warning before sending that the image appears to be in bad taste and asking fo…

> Yet, as rare as it might be, there are people of both genders who actually enjoy receiving unsolicited nudes. And people who enjoy sexual pickup lines. The judgement call of what is/isn't going to be attractive or appropriate ought be to left in the hands of the individuals dating as much as possible rather than controlled by a priest at a tech company. I don't understand. Are you suggesting that Bumble should allo…

I'm suggesting that Bumble shouldn't be the judge of what messages are appropriate to send or not. But they absolutely should provide filtering tools and feedback to users to reduce low quality or obnoxious behavior.

I don't disagree with you that a majority of women do not want unsolicited nudes. But there's not a consensus or black and white line between messages that are wanted or unwanted. Not all women are puritans, yet big tech censorship tends to push all interactions toward a puritanical moral ideal.

Personally, I'm interested in dating people who are sex positive, kink friendly, polyamorous and open minded. While I absolutely do not send unsolicited nudes or lead with crude messages, it can be hard to find people with a similar mindset when dating apps insert their morals between me and my potential dates.

I'm advocating for sensible filters and feedback, rather than moralistic censorship. Even if a majority of people agree with the morals. The only morals that dating apps ought to be concerned with are that the interacting parties are all consenting adults.

Re: Bumble releases open-source A.I. feature to help combat unsolicited nudes

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Post by qubex »

yosito wrote: post #130

I was permanently banned from Tinder for trying to upload a picture of myself holding a pepper from my garden. I can only assume that Tinder's AI thought the pepper looked like an unacceptable body part. I am absolutely in favor of using AI to combat unsolicited nudes as long as it's implemented something like: on the sender's side, show a warning before sending that the image appears to be in bad taste and asking fo…

> rare as it might be, there are people of both genders who actually enjoy receiving unsolicited nudes

I’m a nudist. I don’t enjoy receiving “unsolicited nudes” but a lot of acquaintances from that zone of my life do send photographs that sometimes depict them undressed in pursuit of whatever activity it is they’re depicting — usually the body in the picture is not the point of the exercise.

This just impedes the day-to-day communication of some folks. Imagine if Instagram were bought up by fundamentalists and suddenly implemented a filter that blocks all photographs of women who are not wearing headscarves.

It’s just yet another frustrating obstacle to overcome put in place by prudes.

Re: Bumble releases open-source A.I. feature to help combat unsolicited nudes

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Post by AlmostAnyone »

zimpenfish wrote: post #156
AlmostAnyone wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does your model differentiate solicited and unsolicited nudes?

Doesn't need to, does it? If it's solicited, you know to click on the blurred image. No harm done.

The person I replied to said sending nudes shouldn't be allowed at all

Re: Bumble releases open-source A.I. feature to help combat unsolicited nudes

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Post by sfmike »

raverbashing wrote: post #144
squarefoot wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I was permanently banned from Tinder for trying to upload a picture of myself holding a pepper from my garden. I can only assume that Tinder's AI thought the pepper looked like an unacceptable body part. If that was a "peter pepper", the AI could have reacted just like a human. NSFW warning in case you search: yes, it can look very close to the real thing. I tried to grow them in my balcony among other types of chi…

I'd imagine a geoduck (yes, NSFW) would be similarly misclassified

seafood isn't safe for work? maybe the chinese algorithms are trained to identify cantonese seafood dinners versus american algorithms

Re: Bumble releases open-source A.I. feature to help combat unsolicited nudes

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Post by borissk »

Beaver117 wrote: post #150
socialismisok wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Judging by how you are framing the issue and the way you've talked about women in this thread (which has been a red flag for me, at least) I suspect your experience has nothing to do with your physical traits.

Please focus on the argument and don't attack the poster's character. This isn't reddit.

If you'd read the thread, you'll find out that the poster's character is a part of the discussion (as he claims his character has nothing to do with his lack of success on dating sites).

Re: Bumble releases open-source A.I. feature to help combat unsolicited nudes

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Post by Natfan »

qubex wrote: post #161

As a nudist I find it increasingly frustrating battling all these well-meaning impediments every firm seems to be throwing up everywhere for the sake of combating pornography. Latest discovery is that iOS’s new “press to copy person” doesn’t work if the person is undressed, which makes sense if they’re trying to ensure it doesn’t facilitate copy-and-paste porn of the lowest calibre but… sheesh. I don’t understand why…

I'm reminded of the following description of the electronic thumb from Doulgas Adams' The Hitchhikers' Guide to the Galaxy[0]:

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> *Electronic Thumb*

> A short squat black rod, smooth and matte with a couple of flat switches and dials at one end. It allows Hitchhikers to flag down passing spacecraft to hitch a lift.

> The Thumb is used by Hitchhikers throughout the Galaxy to steal a ride aboard starships who's operators have little interest in taking along extra passengers.

> Half the electronic engineers in the galaxy are constantly trying to find fresh ways of jamming the signals generated by the Thumb, while the other half are constantly trying to find fresh ways of jamming the jamming signals.

[0]: https://sites.google.com/site/h2g2theguide/Index/e/339375

Re: Bumble releases open-source A.I. feature to help combat unsolicited nudes

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Post by borissk »

Rufbdbskrufb473 wrote: post #145
borissk wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If that's true the person to figure out how to make dating apps work for average guys can make a lot of money...

Dating apps end up mostly being used for casual dating and hookups. The closest thing to that for average or below average guys is prostitution, which of course has been around a while and much money was and is being made.

IMHO most users of such site do hope to find a permanent partner.
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