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Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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They ask but it’s not a requirement to fill it in.

Yes it is still optional. I travelled on an ESTA a few months ago , left the social media handles section blank, and they made no comment at the border. That said it is still very capricious.

“What psycho doesn’t have a social media account? Search him/her!”

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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Permissions from Aurora Store (3rd party to Play Store): Hayya: - control vibration - have full network access - prevent phone from sleeping - run at startup - run foreground service - view Wi-Fi connections - view network connections - access sensor data at a high sampling rate - access approximate location only in the foreground - access precise location only the foreground - listen to C2DM messages Etheraz: - acce…

“access sensor data at a high sampling rate“ If that isn’t some terminator shit right there, I don’t know what is.

> If that isn’t some terminator shit right there, I don’t know what is.

This seems an odd statement. You access sensor data at a higher rate for doing things like sports apps (eg, Strava) or many other scenarios. It's behind a permission at least partially because of the potential impact on battery life.

It can be an incremental decrease in privacy (although not especially concerning if the app already has low sample speed access) but it is unclear why this is some kind of terminator issue.

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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The made it mandatory in 2020: https://estatousa.com/esta-social-media-question/

According to https://esta.cbp.dhs.gov/faq?lang=en it's optional in the esta although they remind you that they can reject for any reason.

Well of course it is optional, endless people don't use social media for anything at all, and have never, and will never, have logins or handles.

Huge, massive amounts of people are like this. Huge. Twitter, Facebook, others have massively inflated usage numbers.

I suspect people with social media logins are the minority in the US, for example.

Doubt me? Do you think most people's 68 year old parents, or grandparents, all have logins?

Either way, how can you make it a requirement to provide, what is not a requirement to have?

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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"listen to C2DM" is for push notifications iirc

C2DM was shutdown in 2015 ( https://developers.google.com/android/c2dm/ )

This name (and GCM, google cloud messaging) still lingers inside packages and error messages when only Firebase Cloud Messaging (FCM) now exist.

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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Where do authorities ask for your phone? Just curious

It happens everywhere, from the developed countries to the far east. You have zero rights when crossing the border at immigration control, especially when your passport is weak or they believe you will not leave the country. They log into your IG and WhatsApp and check everything. Otherwise, they will deny entry. They made it legal. Sometimes a person has nothing to hide but nerves first time traveller and gets sucke…

> It happens everywhere, from the developed countries to the far east.

It can happen everywhere, but I don't think it is frequent. I travel fairly frequently and I've never had it happen to me, or seen it happen to anyone around me, or personally know anyone it has happened to.

It's true it happens, and you do read about it on the internet. But I think in every case I've read the person was already being questioned by immigration at a heightened level when it occurred.

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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Is this website even moderated anymore? Every time I visit Hacker News it gets even more extremist.

Saying that you are better by respecting the laws is extremism? Since when?

Since it became “rounding up the gays is fine actually because my steadfast adherence to a schoolboy framework of moral relativism is more important”.

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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I suspect you're not as much for gay rights as some people if you're going to moral relativism state sponsored murder of minority groups.

I would do the exact same for mass genocide or any other atrocity. Logic shouldn't disappear just because the act is above a certain threshold for evil.

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

#198

Surly these permissions aren’t actually possible on iPhone? Apps can’t access other apps even with permission, or disable the lock screen etc.

I for one can't wait until this app is decompiled, so we can judge it on facts rather than rumours. It'd be interesting to see what techniques they employ and how far reaching their invasion of privacy is.

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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Seriously? You're just gonna act like it's okay for them to have laws against being gay ?

It's for Quatar to decide what their laws are. They aren't telling other countries what their laws should be. Why this condescending tone and sense of moral superiority?

Why this defense of laws that go against basic human rights?

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

#200

In general, when travelling internationally, it is just easier to leave your phone at home and buy a cheap phone with a prepaid plan when you get to country. This avoids all of the potential intrusions that come with passing through security and borders.

But when your phone is inspected at the border, and you have only 2 days of chat history, no browser history, no call log, and no saved photos, won't that raise even more questions?
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