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Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by linmob »

omnimus wrote: post #138
anderspitman wrote: post #130

I've been playing with my pinephone a bit (2GB postmarketOS). Overall I think it's awesome and I love having a real linux machine in such a nice package. The build quality is much better than expected. That said, Firefox is extremely slow and crashes a lot. Getting a fast stable browser seems like priority #1 to me. If these things are ever going to take off they need apps, and I think web apps (for better or for wor…

I would bet its software issue. Cheap androids are more than OK. People who only buy high-end don't realize how good cheep phones like xiaomi mi a123 are. It's mostly worse camera... they are solid metal build and don't even feel slower. I've had the pleasure with pinephone manjaro edition and its ok build. Once the software is better i will go for it.

Just a reminder: You can just write an OS to SD card and quickly try it out, and when you've found one that's quite good (I really like Mobian and ArchLinuxARM) you can settle on that. No need to stick with what your PinePhone shipped with :)

Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by avery42 »

Mediterraneo10 wrote: post #117
avery42 wrote: post #53

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Yes, Anbox is working pretty well on Arch Linux ARM [0][1], although I haven't tried Signal specifically. [0] https://github.com/dreemurrs-embedded/Pine64-Arch/releases [1] https://github.com/dreemurrs-embedded/Pine64-Arch/wiki/Anbox

Anbox is so RAM-heavy that it really isn't a realistic solution for running Signal (or OSMAnd, another app that I need on my daily driver), at least not on the 2GB Pinephone board. Yes, Anbox support is moving right along so that you can open an Android app on your Pinephone, but not in a way that you can also use e.g. the web browser at the same time.

Ah, fair, I think I've only ever used it on a 3GB board with ZRAM enabled. It also looks a bit blurry on Wayland, hopefully that gets fixed soon (it looks like there's a bounty for it [0]).

[0] https://github.com/anbox/anbox/issues/1270

Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by kop316 »

linmob wrote: post #185
kop316 wrote: post #77

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Since there are so many distros, it is honestly hard to keep up with (even if you are involved with the commuity). In (very) broad strokes (i.e. if you use a well supported distro), you can expect: - Calls and SMS seem stable, even when the phone is asleep - Battery life Screen on time is measured in hours, and sleep time is measured in ~1 day - Anbox is usable, but not easy to install - convergance is stable - MMS i…

Which distribution are you using? (Asking because there are differences in feature support and reliability .)

I tried PostmarketOS, Mobian, and Manjaro.

PostmarketOS edge had Plasma Mobile 5.20.3, which was considered to be the latest plasma mobile at the time.

Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by megous »

jcun4128 wrote: post #169
megous wrote: post #162

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Camera can record video, 720p will probably be a limit unless you don't mind lower than 30fps framerate. Here's my test recording from a few weeks ago: https://megous.com/dl/tmp/vid-720.mp4 You can only encode via CPU for now, and at best you may be able to encode to x264 at the ultrafast profile. (don't remember which one is fastest, but it's the fastest one) Encoding with the fastest available profile just happens…

Don't mean to be nosy ha, what is the code you were working on/had on screen? Perhaps not specifics but language/context the grouping seemed interesting. (the indents are insane is it Go/Linux?) I guess when you say "saving raw frames"... are you saying this video you made was not simple by "push record button, .mp4 comes out"? Oh the white background comment is about the iso/bad balance? Anyway thanks this is pretty…

That's part of the C code running on the phone, recording itself. Kinda meta. :)

There's quite a lot of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vignetting going on. Camera sensors have anti-vignetting circuitry that is supposed to eliminate this, but it needs to be calibrated to each module and maybe even enclosure the module is in.

I recorded this via a C program, but you can do the same via v4l2-ctl command line tool and encode the result with ffmpeg.

Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by heavyset_go »

girvo wrote: post #188
heavyset_go wrote: post #124

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It isn't the Bootstrap-like frameworks that are causing bloat. It's that websites are written as apps these days by people with relatively beefy machines compared to consumers who don't usually buy top of the line hardware every year. For example, compare Twitter or Facebook to their recent SPA rewrites in React. I can't use either without sacrificing GBs of residential memory. Loading anything on those sites now req…

Reddit is the worst offender for me. I don’t know if they use react? But whatever they’ve done, it’s horrific. It’s bad even on my top of the line 2020 Intel 13” MacBook Pro (the i7 one)!

Pretty sure they do, or at least they use another SPA framework. I would have mentioned Reddit, but forgot about its rewrite because old.reddit.com still works.

Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by hutzlibu »

flubert wrote: post #147
hutzlibu wrote: post #97

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I did not know, that in C64 days you had a browser, with x WebAPIs to do various networking stuff, p2p, soundAPI, database, payment processing, complex - hardware accelerated styling and composite of layout, plattform irrelevant assembler subset, with a integrated IDE etc. etc. A Webbrowser these days is simply much, much more than a static document viewer, despite this might be, what you want it to be.

I wonder if we could grade how much better a current system is vs something like the QNX 1.44MB demo disk. http://toastytech.com/guis/qnxdemo.html

Thats easy: does the qnx meets the requirement of a modern browser?

No, then it is not.

Or do you mean in academical sense of functionaliy per byte? How useful is that?

Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by jcun4128 »

megous wrote: post #194
jcun4128 wrote: post #169

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Don't mean to be nosy ha, what is the code you were working on/had on screen? Perhaps not specifics but language/context the grouping seemed interesting. (the indents are insane is it Go/Linux?) I guess when you say "saving raw frames"... are you saying this video you made was not simple by "push record button, .mp4 comes out"? Oh the white background comment is about the iso/bad balance? Anyway thanks this is pretty…

That's part of the C code running on the phone, recording itself. Kinda meta. :) There's quite a lot of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vignetting going on. Camera sensors have anti-vignetting circuitry that is supposed to eliminate this, but it needs to be calibrated to each module and maybe even enclosure the module is in. I recorded this via a C program, but you can do the same via v4l2-ctl command line tool and enc…

> That's part of the C code running on the phone, recording itself. Kinda meta. :)

Oh man that's cool. I'm working towards that level (C/C++) but coming from JS/Python where you can pretty much "do anything" it's challenging(typing problems in particular eg. array of assorted things of any length).

Oh interesting about the Vignetting will have to read up on that not familiar with the term.

> ffmpeg

Yeah that's something cool I gotta work with too at some point.

Thanks

Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by dskleingeld »

linmob wrote: post #180
dskleingeld wrote: post #139

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regarding podcasts, I am getting a pinephone in a week or two and am building a podcast player as a side project. It is the first gui/app I have ever made and currently it cant even play anything, that is when it compiles, but if you take a look in 2 weeks I might have something (ugly and) functional. https://github.com/dskleingeld/pods

Nice! May I add it to https://linmobapps.frama.io ? WRT to podcasts in general: Gnome Podcasts (not packaged in Mobian) is ok, and Rhythmbox (which is kinda adapted for phones), has podcast support too (with Apple Podcasts directory search).

Of course though it is FAR from done yet, currently biting my teeth into streaming the audio.

Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by dskleingeld »

black_puppydog wrote: post #173
dskleingeld wrote: post #139

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regarding podcasts, I am getting a pinephone in a week or two and am building a podcast player as a side project. It is the first gui/app I have ever made and currently it cant even play anything, that is when it compiles, but if you take a look in 2 weeks I might have something (ugly and) functional. https://github.com/dskleingeld/pods

This looks exactly like what I would do, if I had any bandwidth to spare. I'll be watching this space. :P I did look at the different frameworks/libs on areweguiyet.com and also arrived at iced at the beginning. Have you tried actually compiling this for arm64 yet? I don't see the target set in the project itself, but I usually set it in `.cargo/config`

I was actually planning on cheating by compiling it on the pinephone itself. Since cross compiling (using cargo cross) gets stuck on building a C dep. I will probably look at solving that in the future though. First got to get a basic player working!

Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by dskleingeld »

tmzt wrote: post #167
dskleingeld wrote: post #139

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regarding podcasts, I am getting a pinephone in a week or two and am building a podcast player as a side project. It is the first gui/app I have ever made and currently it cant even play anything, that is when it compiles, but if you take a look in 2 weeks I might have something (ugly and) functional. https://github.com/dskleingeld/pods

Cool. It looks empty because there's no README.md and you could mention it's using Iced as it's ui library.

Yeah I will definitely acknowledge the great rust crates that make this possible
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