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did you use mms in 2019-2020? where are you?
In reality it is likely more realistic to ask where are you as most places still use MMS.
When I came to the US (mid 2010's), I was surprised a large number of people never even heard of WhatsApp.
Is is able to run Android apps? Like Signal for example? Or maybe the Signal desktop app works?
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did you use mms in 2019-2020? where are you?
In reality it is likely more realistic to ask where are you as most places still use MMS.
But it never took off, I don't know of anyone using it. I must have received two in my whole life.
edit: I just checked. I can send MMS. This could have been useful. I sill send and receive SMS and I'd feel like I wouldn't try to send an MMS out of fear of the other side not getting it.
edit 2: ah, looks like it doesn't deliver. shrug
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But other people think different of "important stuff" thats why it is there. And those who really want only simple HTMl rendering, I believe there are lightweight alternatives (?). And if not, well then maybe there is simply not enough demand, because most people apparently want to be able to have a email client in the browser and do online banking, or edit Wikipedia articles in a rich html editor, or play games, or…
> And if not, well then maybe there is simply not enough demand, because most people apparently want to be able to have a email client in the browser and do online banking, or edit Wikipedia articles in a rich html editor, or play games, or watch videos and share and comment them or even do video editing, ... all in the browser. IMO they largely just want to do all these things in an open core VM, without risking ins…
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I grew up in the C64 days - I still can't get my head around the fact that you need 3gb of RAM because 2gb is not enough to run a webbrowser these days. I know that what's going on on a typical website these days requires an enormous amount of computational power, but I mean, come on. That shouldn't be the explanation, it's part of the problem.
Any content you see on the screen hasn't changed at all. On a typical website all of the analytics are causing page bloat. Sometimes there are frameworks like bootstrap but hypothetically those should be cached. If you are looking at a web application then it has a framework that is a magnitude higher and the rest of it you see a significant increase.
It also has a lot to do with the fact that the Pinephone CPU is underpowered compared to anything from 2020 (or almost anything from 2015, really).
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Hmmm great points. Is this a "call for mobile versions" of classic Linux programs in a way?
Definitely... that's part of the reason I chime in when this topic comes up. Having done both Linux and mobile development, I don't believe that the entirety of the answer is going to be 'just throw a more powerful SoC in the device'. Sure, that will help to a degree in some areas but there is a lot of work that has been put into iOS and Android to achieve a balance between battery life and performance that most deve…
Is is able to run Android apps? Like Signal for example? Or maybe the Signal desktop app works?
Yes, Anbox is working pretty well on Arch Linux ARM [0][1], although I haven't tried Signal specifically. [0] https://github.com/dreemurrs-embedded/Pine64-Arch/releases [1] https://github.com/dreemurrs-embedded/Pine64-Arch/wiki/Anbox
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Any content you see on the screen hasn't changed at all. On a typical website all of the analytics are causing page bloat. Sometimes there are frameworks like bootstrap but hypothetically those should be cached. If you are looking at a web application then it has a framework that is a magnitude higher and the rest of it you see a significant increase.
Website bloat isn't the explanation. Firefox on the original 2GB Pinephone board is painfully slow even if you have uBlock Origin and Noscript installed. It is slow even to open and browse to a minimalist text-only website with. I'm not sure how much of this is Firefox, and how much is the whole Mobian UI that depends on GNOME components that have not been optimized to save RAM. It also has a lot to do with the fact…
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I’ve been using Mobian on the UBport edition for the last month. Sluggish doesn’t even describe the usability. I bought a few data only sims in hopes of leaving the house for short errands with different devices. There is no way I could leave the house with the pinephone. It isn’t usable yet. Could an extra gig of RAM solve this? It seems like it needs years of work.
As you noticed, it's not just a RAM issue. The problem is that Linux GUI and apps generally expect laptop/desktop-ish levels of hardware capabilities because that's what they were developed on/for. You're literally running the same code base that the x86 versions run, just recompiled for ARM. Most mobile SoCs, especially the ones that are Linux-friendly in terms of being open enough to be viable, are not even remotel…
I remember running x11 and Java w/swing on 8MB 486 laptop... So something is off if multiple cores at 30-100 times the frequency can't run a gui?