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YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Post by zigzaggy »

effingwewt wrote: post #158
everdrive wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. You don't own Youtube, and you don't really have much control over content you wish to upload, or content you wish the view. And, this content can be removed or modified (by inserting ads) at any time. I think services are generally bad for consumers. (they can be quite good for businesses, though) If a consumer relies on a service, then they are beholden to any change made in that service. In other words, it's…

Completely agree the imbalance of the power dynamic has really gotten worse since the Reagan era. We really need stronger consumer advocacy. An aside- it's really jaded me that with the advent of the internet so many of us had these wonderful dreams of the things we could build and share the world over, and how it would change the world and be this revolutionary force. Well it was, just not for good. Every single goo…

You're singing my song. I really believed that information wanted to be free, and once people were exposed to it, they would become more free. But the information pool is being muddied, and that process is enriching technology companies. They were supposed to lead the charge to FREEDOM!

But power corrupts. And honestly, it all sounds so idealistic now. It has become painfully obvious that the companies will not self-regulate. We've got to do something.

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Post by QuadrupleA »

helmholtz wrote: post #157
mrspeaker wrote: post #143

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I'm the same as you regarding reduced viewing time recently... unless I'm extremely motivated, I kill the tab as soon as the ad starts. It's the same with sites that require javascript to view: I'm sure the content might be good if I whitelisted it - but most the time it's my cue to realize I'm procrastinating and should get back to creating rather than consuming!

It heartens me to know that this sentiment is spreading. I have some black and white rules set up for myself. The day Whatsapp stops encrypting chats is the day I jump ship. The day Youtube blocks access to those using uBlock, I'll stop going to Youtube. The day old.reddit.com and i.reddit.com stop working, sayonara Reddit. I've come to realise that a) I just don't derive TOO much value from any of these websites/ser…

Signal (https://signal.org) is an awesome WhatsApp replacement BTW - end to end encrypted, open source, and run by a nonprofit.

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Post by comprev »

Aunche wrote: post #183
cableshaft wrote: post #4

I know there are several content creators (such as Jim Sterling) that have their videos ad-free as a perk for their supporters (since he's supported enough via Patreon). He's pretty angry about this change. I somewhat understand Google's stance on this, as it's a service that should be allowed to make money even on people who don't want to make money. They don't really have such a way to opt out of pretty much any ot…

> I know there are several content creators (such as Jim Sterling) that have their videos ad-free as a perk for their supporters (since he's supported enough via Patreon). He's pretty angry about this change. That just comes off as entitled. Youtube is providing free bandwidth, hosting, and advertising for his patreon.

Perhaps YT should have a tiered paid account system - as a content creator you pay a small monthly fee (relative to the local country) to cover costs... say €1 per month for 10hrs of content? As the channel grows in size (and ideally, viewings), the costs go up.

It would certainly reduce the amount of junk uploaded to the internet.

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Post by sugarpile »

adrianN wrote: post #113
Droobfest wrote: post #7

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I think technically it would be pretty easy for google to embed ads into videos in a way that would be hard to impossible to block.

Twitch does this already: https://twitchadvertising.tv/ad-products/surestream/

Twitch ads, including surestream ones, are blockable/bypassable.

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Post by alangibson »

At what point does the social contract between consumers and Google, whereby we get loads of freebies and they get to know everything about us, become void?

It looks like we're all getting played for suckers because they still get all of our info while their services are gradually restricted.

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Post by nineplay »

bsd44 wrote: post #118

As a content consumer I see this as a positive thing for me. A few months ago when YouTube decided to auto-add ads on all videos, my watch time on YouTube decreased by more than 50% since I consume all video content on either my phone or my tablet (where I don't have access to AdBlock), and I find the amount of ads I have to go through to watch a video so annoying that I'd rather not watch it at all. As a result I sp…

Reddit recently limited the number of comments you can read in Safari on iOS devices. Click "more" and you are prompted to create an account or go to their app.

It's been fantastic. Reddit comments decrease rapidly in quality anyway, but I was unable to look away. Now I'm capped - one or two scrolls and I have to go find something more rewarding to do. Thanks reddit!

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Post by andylei »

treis wrote: post #169
bsharitt wrote: post #61

I get why people are mad that something that exists is changing, though at this point I've stopped being surprised when something that was free either stops being free or has the free offering diminished. This particularly was a very weird setup where if you didn't want a share of ad revenue, you got to use the service completely for free. While Google offers ad free YouTube to users, it'd be nice if they offered a w…

This sort of thing needs to attract anti-competitive scrutiny at some point. Give away something for free, drive your competitors away, then raise prices is a text book anti-competitive move.

youtube is still free

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Post by nbzso »

This makes me reconsider Vimeo as a video platform. This year I decided to invest my free time in creating two channels for Painting(art in general) and Drawing (design focused), all is planned and tested and the only thing left on the table is video platform. YouTube as a platform rewards "dopamine reaction", controversy topics, kick-bait thumbnails, short form format and so on. Yes, there is a ton of good stuff that is actually hard to find because the Algorithm is fine-tuned to work in absurd way by pushing non relevant content. As a creator after recent changes to UI/UX you cannot tailor user experience in full. Using playlists is not enough of a tool for me.

YouTube is useful for big brands with lots of content with high revenue and everyone small is pushing it hard to find a way to be liked and stay relevant to "monetization" practices. At this point if you as creator don't rely on ad-revenue YouTube is not your place.

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Post by themaninthedark »

jrootabega wrote: post #44
oauea wrote: post #39

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YouTube doesn't have any acceptable ads.

Nonsense. They have a lot of short and inoffensive ads, and similar delivery methods. They also have a lot of long offensive ones, and we should give them an incentive to favor the former

Short...I remember getting several 15 to 30 minute ads on 5 minute videos. At lest they were skipable.

To be fair, the ads themselves were interesting, I just didn't have time to watch all of them.

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Post by alangibson »

Does anyone know of any good 'static video hosting' tools?

I'm thinking of an easy to use tool that would chunk videos and create manifests for DASH, generate a thumbnail, and do whatever else you'd need to do to host streaming videos on your own blog.

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