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Bleeding-edge tech will kill your startup

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Re: Bleeding-edge tech will kill your startup

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Post by holler »

ldeangelis wrote: post #123
holler wrote: post #115

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What problem was Discord solving when they launched? Twitch already existed, Slack existed. Asking because it's a similar question I'm asking myself as I build https://sqwok.im , a news-focused public messaging app. I chose to use "bleeding edge tech", and have been challenged by peers about whether it would have been wiser to just use some off-the-shelf solution for parts of it vs architecting a fully custom a-z pla…

Discord was heavily marketed towards the gaming community that was split between Skype, Teamspeak, Mumble and maybe some others that I don't remember. All of them had some flaws while Discord just worked.

Excellent point and that makes sense.. I remember using Teamspeak way back in the day.

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Post by fsckboy »

somewhat tangentially to the main point of the article:

> [this is your brain on drugs] "Firstly, makes no sense seeing everyone loves fried eggs. Secondly, this is how my brain looked when trying to start a "bleeding edge" tech company."

but... you undermine your own point! you just said everybody loves fried eggs, so shouldn't your brain looking like that with bleeding edge tech be a good thing? you just said it's a good thing.

I'm pointing it out because it's two of my pet peeves, (1) people attack the analogy, screaming "fallacy reeeee" when they disagree with the overarching point, then they embrace the analogy when they agree; it shouldn't be that way. The analogy is always a good thing, it's a metaphorical tool for conveying a point of understanding and it's not an argument in itself so it can't be a fallacy; and (2) people, young people especially, reflexively feel the need to endorse drug use and more broadly, decry any puritanical notion, to the extent of willing suspension of disbelief that porn, drugs, gambling, and addictions to dopamine might actually not be all that beneficial a use of your time. (I realize that's a complicated sentence; I'm trying to "weed out" the stoners)

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Post by xnyan »

rikroots wrote: post #156
save_ferris wrote: post #152

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I’m sensing some attitude issues just reading this, to be completely honest. If your reaction to your library/product/whatever not taking off on HN is to get on HN and complain about it, you’re probably building whatever it is you’re building for the wrong reasons. > I can see the problem, and some of the solutions - but other developers are simply not interested. Developers are constantly marketed all kinds of solut…

Web accessibility is a legitimate issue that every front-end developer needs to care about.

You have solved the problem of the considerable "extra" effort that web accessibility requires? Less than that, to be honest I'm not interested. If you have, well, extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Would you say that you have extraordinary proof?

Reading this back to myself, I think that I sound like an asshole, but it's my honest thought process fwitw.

Re: Bleeding-edge tech will kill your startup

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Post by atoav »

wbl wrote: post #129
atoav wrote: post #61

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There are these geniuses that can do something they never did before and create something truly amazing. But realistically even they don't manage to deliver on that the majority of the time. Even the steam engine people had to rely on known standard parts like screws and bolts and known planing or manufacturing procedures that they didn't invent. Only because they knew which forces a bolt would withstand and learned…

The standarized screw was after the steam engine. It wasn't until 1841 that Whitworth promulgated his thread. Before then every rail manufacturer had their own house standard.

You are right, thanks for the hint.

Re: Bleeding-edge tech will kill your startup

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Post by rikroots »

xnyan wrote: post #194
rikroots wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Web accessibility is a legitimate issue that every front-end developer needs to care about.

You have solved the problem of the considerable "extra" effort that web accessibility requires? Less than that, to be honest I'm not interested. If you have, well, extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Would you say that you have extraordinary proof? Reading this back to myself, I think that I sound like an asshole, but it's my honest thought process fwitw.

> You have solved the problem of the considerable "extra" effort that web accessibility requires?

Have I 'solved' web accessibility for the element? No. Have I coded up a JS canvas library that has, as one of its central aims, the idea that elements can, and should, be made accessible? Yes - that's what I'm attempting to do. It is a work-in-progress; I guarantee that my solutions can be improved on: Rome wasn't built in a day.

> Would you say that you have extraordinary proof?

The results of my efforts to date can be seen on the library's home page. Criticisms and suggestions on how to make things work better are always welcome! https://scrawl-v8.rikweb.org.uk/

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