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Re: Bleeding-edge tech will kill your startup

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Post by cellis »

fbelzile wrote: post #146
warent wrote: post #78

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Not even about bleeding edge products. It's a lengthy article about the pitfalls of entering a market with no market validation, which the author slapped lipstick on and gave this sexy title.

I agree. Look at the landing page [0]. First off, they hijack your scroll wheel and present you with some Apple-esque website that is very slow and doesn't work properly. > "Remote, component-driven, and obsessed with speed." I think not. Second, they show zero screenshots of the service or what the benefits are to using it. > "Handoff reimagined." Yea, okay... Nice slogan, now show me before I move on! No wonder the…

Yeah, as someone who might use this product I feel like the landing page should be a long post on “how it works”. Frontend engineers are going to be very big stakeholders on this and I need to know, down to the bone bits how does it’s thing.

Re: Bleeding-edge tech will kill your startup

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Post by save_ferris »

rikroots wrote: post #136
vincnetas wrote: post #46

Has any of commenters read the article? Looks like everyone talks about using bleeding edge tech in startup and how its bad, but this article is about building a bleeding edge product and how difficult is to sell such product (probably because everyone know that using bleeding edge products is dangerous :) )

I read the article before coming to read the HN response to it. I haven't read beyond your top-of-the-thread comment. The article resonated deeply with me, because I know just how the author feels. I, too, have developed a software product that attempts to address a key failing in one of the (more under-utilized) DOM elements we have at our disposal when building websites. I can see the problem, and some of the solut…

I’m sensing some attitude issues just reading this, to be completely honest.

If your reaction to your library/product/whatever not taking off on HN is to get on HN and complain about it, you’re probably building whatever it is you’re building for the wrong reasons.

> I can see the problem, and some of the solutions - but other developers are simply not interested.

Developers are constantly marketed all kinds of solutions. You, the library author, have a responsibility to convince developers that the problem you’re working on is legitimate. If that’s not getting across, that’s on you.

> Maybe HN is trying to tell me that I would be better off developing a standup comedy routine?

Why would anyone want to take you or your work seriously after reading something like this?

Re: Bleeding-edge tech will kill your startup

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Post by eeZah7Ux »

jungletime wrote: post #60
aaronbrethorst wrote: post #57

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Cans of tuna are cheaper and tastier.

As a Vegan, I'm repulsed at throwing dead fish at people. Also they kill dolphins when they catch them. Dolphins are "people kind" best friend in the ocean.

Plus, fishing is really unsustainable: fish depletion, severe harm to non-edible species, high energy usage, carbon emission, geopolitical tension.

Finally, it's one of the most dangerous jobs, and often exploitative.

Re: Bleeding-edge tech will kill your startup

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Post by jaywalk »

names_are_hard wrote: post #124
mrtksn wrote: post #119

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Which makes me wonder, why people insist on having a headline AND an article in 2020? It only creates a confusion when most people don't bother reading articles when the headline is strong enough to inflict a response. It has become a tool to say something and deny saying it.

That got me thinking of an idea for a startup: let's build a service that allows people to broadcast headlines with no content (since no one reads the articles anyway), and then other people can reply to the headlines. To make sure that authors stick to the rules, we'll limit the length of each headline to 140 characters. Side benefit: users can post their headlines via a single SMS message.

I thought I was so clever and was going to reply "you've invented Twitter!" and then I read the rest of your comment, and realized that was your point. Damn it.

Re: Bleeding-edge tech will kill your startup

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Post by the_af »

dheera wrote: post #62
ZephyrBlu wrote: post #35

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The weight is something I love about MX Masters.

I love the weight too. However, the battery life sucked -- last time I had one, kept dying after a week needing a recharge. I then bought a Logitech Marathon mouse and I'm already going 2+ years wireless on a single set of AA batteries. That makes me happy. I like products I don't have to think about charging all the time. I wish they covered the mice in solar panels like the solar-powered wireless keyboard, or harve…

I know I'm comparing apples to oranges, but I own a Logitech MX Anywhere 2S and the battery seems to last forever, even with constant use. It works on any surface, too! The best mouse I've ever used.

Re: Bleeding-edge tech will kill your startup

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Post by rikroots »

save_ferris wrote: post #152
rikroots wrote: post #136

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I read the article before coming to read the HN response to it. I haven't read beyond your top-of-the-thread comment. The article resonated deeply with me, because I know just how the author feels. I, too, have developed a software product that attempts to address a key failing in one of the (more under-utilized) DOM elements we have at our disposal when building websites. I can see the problem, and some of the solut…

I’m sensing some attitude issues just reading this, to be completely honest. If your reaction to your library/product/whatever not taking off on HN is to get on HN and complain about it, you’re probably building whatever it is you’re building for the wrong reasons. > I can see the problem, and some of the solutions - but other developers are simply not interested. Developers are constantly marketed all kinds of solut…

Web accessibility is a legitimate issue that every front-end developer needs to care about.

Re: Bleeding-edge tech will kill your startup

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Post by rikroots »

nailer wrote: post #147
rikroots wrote: post #136

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I read the article before coming to read the HN response to it. I haven't read beyond your top-of-the-thread comment. The article resonated deeply with me, because I know just how the author feels. I, too, have developed a software product that attempts to address a key failing in one of the (more under-utilized) DOM elements we have at our disposal when building websites. I can see the problem, and some of the solut…

> I, too, have developed a software product that attempts to address a key failing in one of the (more under-utilized) DOM elements we have at our disposal when building websites Link?

https://github.com/KaliedaRik/Scrawl-canvas

Re: Bleeding-edge tech will kill your startup

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Post by etimberg »

rikroots wrote: post #157
nailer wrote: post #147

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> I, too, have developed a software product that attempts to address a key failing in one of the (more under-utilized) DOM elements we have at our disposal when building websites Link?

https://github.com/KaliedaRik/Scrawl-canvas

Haven't had a chance to look at the code yet, but how did you address responsiveness? It took us a long time when writing chart.js to get that working well on with different browsers, devices, and screens (high resolution screens require extra code)

Re: Bleeding-edge tech will kill your startup

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Post by tixocloud »

rikroots wrote: post #136
vincnetas wrote: post #46

Has any of commenters read the article? Looks like everyone talks about using bleeding edge tech in startup and how its bad, but this article is about building a bleeding edge product and how difficult is to sell such product (probably because everyone know that using bleeding edge products is dangerous :) )

I read the article before coming to read the HN response to it. I haven't read beyond your top-of-the-thread comment. The article resonated deeply with me, because I know just how the author feels. I, too, have developed a software product that attempts to address a key failing in one of the (more under-utilized) DOM elements we have at our disposal when building websites. I can see the problem, and some of the solut…

have you tried understanding how to find developers who has the problem in the first place? I think that you might get more traction that way.

Re: Bleeding-edge tech will kill your startup

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Post by k__ »

donkeyd wrote: post #143
k__ wrote: post #125

This. People will buy what they understand. Who can blame them? Your real bleeding edge tech company is outnumbered by snake oil companies 1:1000.

That's bull. People bought the iPhone in spite of 'it has no physical keyboard', 'it has no copy paste', 'there's no place to put a stylus', et cetera. If people don't understand the product, you need to sell it in a way that they do understand. That's why marketing is still an expertise and not a side gig in most successful companies.

The iPhone wasn't successful because it was "bleeding-edge tech", it was successful because it was a bold and innovative remix of existing technology.
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