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Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by floatingatoll »

imustbeevil wrote: post #182
epa wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You realize that it is possible to log out and walk away right?

You realize that people will look through 20 years of post history, triangulate every piece of information you've ever mistakenly let loose that you haven't thought about in a decade, and use that information to harass you outside of the internet, right ?

My first high school crush has been doing this continuously for 20 years^, in case anyone things this is a made-up story. Stalking behaviors are not rational, and they do not care that 20 years have passed. Stalkers do not care that you walked away.

^ They don't seem to realize that after the wave of 28 death threats in an evening 15 years ago (in writing, I still have them for the cops), I'm simply not going to communicate with them ever again, unless it's to their local constabulary to deliver a restraining order. I half expect they'll show up here to reply to my comment with a green account and go on yet another thousand-word crazy monologue rant about how they are entitled to my friendship after 20 years of never-ending harassment. We'll see.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by buboard »

runawaybottle wrote: post #114

Without getting into the weeds, I just don’t see why we accepted that the internet should be one giant message board. We seem to do this over and over with stuff like Reddit and Facebook, but once upon a time communities would be their own site with their own message board.

Because it is and always has been , from the start. Without this liberation of having a public , anonymous board, we 'd be so much poorer culturally. Reddit banning some stuff is a good thing - new venues will arise because people arent just going to stop talking.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by kerkeslager »

epa wrote: post #165
nullc wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not just hate you, but stalk, threaten and harass you. There are some people where even just saying-- as a moderator-- "Hey, can you chill out and at lease pretend to treat other posters with some respect" will trigger a full on war against you. There aren't many people like this, but it only takes a few because even a single obsessed person can spew a lot of hate.

You realize that it is possible to log out and walk away right?

It actually isn't always possible to log out and walk away. Sometimes people find out where you live and go there, or find out where you work and contact your employer.

As they used to say in the 90s internet, "When you die on the internet you die in real life."

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by Miner49er »

Press2forEN wrote: post #185

Since the 2016 election the left has been consolidating their vast cultural power by exiling opposing views that don't pass their ever-shifting purity tests. It remains to be seen whether or not this will bury conservative thought or cause an underground resurgence.

The largest lefist subreddit was banned today. The T_D ban was purely symbolic, it was already dead.

This isn't "the left" this is liberalism.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

duxup wrote: post #86
ve55 wrote: post #7

Worth taking note that in today's climate, you really cannot win when you are in a position to moderate important things that a lot of people use. There is constantly tremendous pressure on you to perform opposing actions, and even making no decision at all will cause you significant mental stress and harassment, regardles of what the issue is. You have to pick who you want to cave to, and to what extent, and no matt…

Would something decentralized help? I don't think people want that. The_Donald involved a lot of spreading their message / fake news sites / spamming across other subs and etc. Do people want to be on a platform where other folks on the same platform are targeting their community with dishonest and often bigoted content? I'm also not sure how much The_Donald was as a community. The sheer volume of users at its height…

> So you'd be in your other community and one day

I don't think so? So if TD was a mastodon community, many others would blacklist their content, but unless members of TD go and make accounts elsewhere that'd be the extent of it, no?

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by ironman1478 »

parliament32 wrote: post #9

Whether you agree with the move or not, it's funny how Reddit's stance has changed over time. Under the old ownership, 2012: "At reddit we care deeply about not imposing ours or anyone elses’ opinions on how people use the reddit platform. We are adamant about not limiting the ability to use the reddit platform even when we do not ourselves agree with or condone a specific use. We have very few rules here on reddit;…

I don't really expect people's opinions/beliefs to stay constant when presented with new facts. People are horrible on the internet and there needs to be moderation. It's evidenced time and time again. The consequences of not doing this weren't obvious then (maybe, I wasn't really on reddit then), but they are obvious now.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by belltaco »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #120
bmarquez wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're right. The_Donald has been dead for months due to the above-mentioned restrictions on submissions, moderator removal, and moving to a different site. If they're getting banned now it's for something that was done months ago.

I think it’s worth mentioning the Reddit reason for initial quarantine was “anti police” comments. MediaMatters / ShareBlue wrote an article about how anti police the sub was referencing two downvoted but not deleted comments. The entire sub was always pro law and order. Reddit put very heavy limits on the sub for that. Which is pretty damn funny to me - because right now on every single popular sub there are “all co…

This is quite not correct. What triggered the quarantine was the violent threats against Oregon state police for this:

https://www.kgw.com/article/news/politics/oregon-senate-repu...

And it wasn't just two comments, and they weren't downvoted. Proof here https://www.mediamatters.org/donald-trump/pro-trump-subreddi...

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by [deleted] »

boardwaalk wrote: post #92
koheripbal wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

.... so like almost every other political platform theses days?

> like No, just because something exists doesn't mean it exists to the same degree. I visited there irregularly just to see what was happening. It was on another level like OAN and some shows on Fox News.

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