Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why is it naive to expect there not to be a single point of failure like that? Code reviews are a thing.
What if they pushed it without asking anyone?
Then the system that allowed them to do so is badly designed.
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#192Elon Musk has built up a really uncomfortable cult of personality in my opinion and I think it results in an incredibly horrendous environment to work in. The way he's been behaving over the past few weeks (incl. his since-deleted reference to a cult site) does not exactly help his credibility when he's making broad claims like this. He's been blaming everyone else but himself for every single little mistake and I ca…
> blaming everyone else but himself for every single little mistake
Citation needed
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#193Guys. You are saying that Elon is crazy. He is not - He is taking down giants and they are angry.
A NASA employee that advocated for SpaceX was sent Anthrax in the mail[1]. GM destroyed it's entire electric car fleet in 1991 because it threatened their gasoline product line[2]. 15 billion will be lost by short sellers if Elon succeeds[3]. The verdict is in. Big players will do crazy sh*t when they are threatened. And when I write this, the four top comments are suggesting Elon is crazy! What the hell is going on in Hacker News these days? There is nothing crazy about Elon being an enormous threat and that big co's are trying to crush him, any means necessary.
[1] https://www.facebook.com/valleyhack/posts/653383221428617 [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_EV1 [3] https://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/tsla/short-interest
Re: Elon Musk emails employees about 'extensive and damaging sabotage' by employee
#194I'm sorry but Musk's email is ridiculous and unprofessional, and the defenses here are extremely concerning. By ArsTechnica's count this is the 5th fire in the plant. 5th. That's insane. Report after report is that things continue to not go well and the email sent out reeks of paranoia and combined with other comments made recently are quite clearly dishonest. They aren't failing at the details of ramping a manufactu…
> Tesla's greatest enemy at this point is the cult of Elon Musk, and the cult's leader, Elon Musk.
Huh, well, given that, I strongly suggest you short TSLA, which would be a sure thing, right?
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#195Ahh, the little man again. The little man has been giving Elon and Tesla problems for a long time. Early on Musk thought Henry Fisker, who led the design on the Model S then left to start his own EV company was the little man, so he launched a lawsuit against him, but it turned out Henry wasn't the little man, and the lawsuit was meritless. The little man talked Musk into building falcon wing doors into the Model X,…
This is an absolutely vile personal attack. This is the poison contained in the blooming flower of the internet.
Re: Elon Musk emails employees about 'extensive and damaging sabotage' by employee
#196I made this same comment on the other discussion. I find it concerning that one person was able to push malicious code to 'production'. To me, this suggests that Tesla, a company building highly sensitive software, does not employ basic branch policies. How is is it that these changes could have made it through a code review process and get deployed? If a company like Microsoft or Google announced that a disgruntled…
I guess you’ve never worked at a startup? Tesla is still very much a young and rambunctious company.
Ok, but we are trusting this 'young and rambunctious' company to produce software for self driving cars, where lack of appropriate policy controls could result in serious consequences if another "disgruntled employee" decides to sabotage the codebase
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#197Earlier quoted context omitted.
A few mistakes along the way? He's fucking delusional, and mostly works hard taking credit for the work of other people, and for other people's money (you don't get to be a billionaire any other way). He peddles a greenwashed variant of your run of the mill rocket age fantasy that engineering types get all teary eyed about. And hey, If you like accusing people of obeying Godwin's law, now's your big chance, because I…
I think you should reconsider your thoughts about this a bit. There is a genuine revolution underway being enabled by plummeting costs of producing lithium-ion batteries at scale. Whether or not Tesla will lead it (or even continue be part of it) is certainly up for debate, but large, real things are happening and saying "everyone ride a bike!" is ignoring a reality that isn't tainted by feelings about Tesla/Elon.
> There is a genuine revolution underway being enabled by plummeting costs of producing lithium-ion batteries at scale.
I guess that is another story he sells. Why are Samsung and LG also able to make cheap batteries, even though they don't have a gigafactory?
Too much hype. Tesla doesn't even make battery cells, they buy them off panasonic.
Re: Elon Musk emails employees about 'extensive and damaging sabotage' by employee
#198I made this same comment on the other discussion. I find it concerning that one person was able to push malicious code to 'production'. To me, this suggests that Tesla, a company building highly sensitive software, does not employ basic branch policies. How is is it that these changes could have made it through a code review process and get deployed? If a company like Microsoft or Google announced that a disgruntled…
I know in Microsoft it would be relatively easy to push destructive code changes. It depends on the product though. I was able to connect to production machines. There was someone running torrents in the past.
From my experience on the O365 team, it would have been difficult to push code without approval because it would have voilated a number of the compliance requirements that area of the business has to meet.
But yeah, I suppose there are other areas of the company that might have more relaxed requirements
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#199Earlier quoted context omitted.
Don't like Musk at all but to be fair, the email was leaked, it's not like he meant to share it publicly AFAWK.
An email to all his employees and worded like a blog post. It was expected that this will be leaked.
I definitely don't put it past him as others do this, I get that. It's a different level about what message tesla wants to send if he either sent an email to be leaked vs. saying this in a interview vs. saying this to share holders vs. putting this out as a formal statement.
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#200I have no problem believing that a disgruntled employee sabotaged part of the production line. But I do have a problem believing that all of the problems since the Model 3 started production were caused by sabotage. I also have no problem believing that the disgruntled employee simply wanted to take revenge by sabotaging his/her employer -- that's not uncommon, and it should not be difficult to prove if it really hap…
You have no problem believing a sabateur who exported data to an unknown third party when he says he acted alone out of spite? All that was said in an internal email is that it's possible that other forces were at play and it's something they're investigating.