Microsoft built its own custom Linux kernel for its new IoT service

Post by StreamBright » Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 9:22 AM UTC

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Have you used Windows 10 Server Core, or Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB? There's no data collection in either of those, because they're for serious people. The Home and Pro editions, meanwhile, are effectively "Xbox OS for PCs." They turn your computer into an entertainment appliance run and maintained by Microsoft itself. Of course they collect data, just like there are data-collection agents on all the nodes of your av…

> Have you used Windows 10 Server Core, or Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB? There's no data collection in either of those, because they're for serious people. How does one, as a non-enterprise, even get W10 Enterprise LTSB? I would, in a heartbeat, but MS wants to shove crapvertising down peoples' throats no matter the cost. And it's logical, given that when the users with money to spend and technical expertise fall out o…

Post by raimue » Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 9:23 AM UTC

Post by aepiepaey » Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 9:33 AM UTC

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> Pro edition ... Of course they collect data There's something fundamentally wrong with that to my mind, given how the Pro release of Windows has always been placed. I should not need to get an Enterprise release to be able to manage my own machine, restrict the phoning home, and control other basic features of my machine used in a professional context. I've no need of 101 features for managing 1,000 desktops and ne…

I was under the impression you can disable all of the telemetry. Is that not the case ? And Pro really refers to Prosumer not Professional.

Post by aepiepaey » Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 9:38 AM UTC

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You used to be able to download a trial off the open web on MS' download portal. I ran LTSB for a year and it was brilliant. But on day 366 (or whever my slmgr -rearm trick ran out) you get locked out with no real way to change to a different SKU or reset without a clean install :( There's a program called BlackBird ( http://getblackbird.net/ ) that claims to strip out all that telemetry. I have been running it for a…

Hadn’t heard of Blackbird. Sounded awesome. But... 1. “Note: Some anti-virus products may detect Blackbird as malware.” 2. “Last updated: Nov. 10, 2016” ...now, not so much. sigh And I really wanted to believe.

Post by rbanffy » Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 9:51 AM UTC

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Am I paraphrasing this correctly: > Microsoft-branded ARM microcontrollers running an embedded linux distribution. Microsoft rolls out security updates over Azure to reduce the risk of the device becoming part of a botnet. It sounds great.

It does. But, it's also pretty surreal for those of us that worked through the anti-linux Microsoft of the 90's. Windows subsystem for Linux, and initiatives like this are a real confirmation that MS finally "gets it". Right tool for the right job. Good for them. It's also a big swing for me in that I trust MS more than Google now to do the right thing. I'd have thought that impossible a couple of decades ago.