The only surprising thing about this article was how lowly paid a language professor is. $47,000? What?
Did you do know the median US wage is $31,000?
As Flow of Foreign Students Wanes, U.S. Universities Feel the Sting
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#192There are really three different downsides to this. First, the foreign students cross-subsidize the locals' education. There are large fixed costs to running a university and these students pay way above their marginal costs. So now the universities have fewer resources; hence cutting the newspaper funding etc. Second, the foreign students increase the schools' reputations and can collaborate with the faculty. Resear…
> In my own PhD program, the productivity of the Americans was much lower than the foreigners. I think the bias has swung way too far the other way. Racism against Americans is still racism. Also, this applies mainly to undergrads (full paying students), not PhD students who are generally fully funded.
I read it more like selectivity is higher for foreign students then for Americans, which would inevitably lead to such a skweed outcome. That said, I will agree with [citation needed].
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#193Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, the problem is that they don't cut admin first. They cut newspapers, and sports, and bring in adjuncts who cost a lot less and are desperate for work.
.... sports? Only if they aren't something that attract a crowd. I see very few colleges cutting basketball or football programs so they don't have to maintain stadiums any more.
Because those two sports are largely profitable and often subsidize other sports.
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#194Earlier quoted context omitted.
Source? I have a different viewpoint, a lot of people have national pride, still have a better network back home, or their parents' business, so that they actually go back to work in their home countries.
I'd say it depends on the quality of life in the student's country. Those from western Europe, Japan, South Korea and Australia and any other country with similar quality of life would not mind going back, but almost everyone else would rather stay.
South korean students were returning home even decades before when the country was more poor.
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#195Earlier quoted context omitted.
Source? I have a different viewpoint, a lot of people have national pride, still have a better network back home, or their parents' business, so that they actually go back to work in their home countries.
I'd say it depends on the quality of life in the student's country. Those from western Europe, Japan, South Korea and Australia and any other country with similar quality of life would not mind going back, but almost everyone else would rather stay.
Generally, I'd agree, although in come cases plans just change: A foaf of mine from Japan studied in Vienna. After graduating, he decided he didn't want to permanently go back to Japan's rigid social structure. So he decided to stay in Austria. (He later married my friend's sister.)
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#196Earlier quoted context omitted.
Regarding PhDs, grad international enrollment is declining. Regarding the full-paying foreign undergrads, their tuition contributes towards the costs of the university that are shared. American students, especially at middle-ranking public schools, are hurt when schools lose their funding. Regarding the "racism against Americans," there is no such race, and if there were one it would not explain research productivity…
What race is American?
Race to the bottom...
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#197Earlier quoted context omitted.
>> Trump and others don’t recognize is that the American university system is a distributed system of factories that manufacture knowledge, innovation and the future. There is another side to this. And that is that the American university system has a distinct political agenda that is opposed to the interests of the Trump-supporting half of the American electorate. It is a bad thing for innovation when there are fewe…
Disclaimer: I'm not American. But my view is that the American right has placed itself outside the Overton window of anyone with a higher education. For example, the President is a climate change denier. How do you expect those views to be represented in universities when they fly in the face of overwhelming scientific evidence? In most countries, this problem doesn't exist because parties with ideas equivalent to th…
Climate change isn't a very good example. Individuals who subscribe to anthropogenic global warming and individuals who are skeptical of it have equal levels of scientific comprehension. [1]
It's more accurate to note that either side of the political divide in the United States has its share of unscientific beliefs. On the right, you have things like creationism and anti-vaxxers. On the left, you have things like gender theory and anti-GMO. Dismissing either side as rubes because of deeply held (if unscientific) ideologies doesn't help bridge the divide any.
>> In most countries, this problem doesn't exist because parties with ideas equivalent to the GOP don't exist or are marginal.
As an American who has not lived in or visited America for quite some time, I agree there is typically more uniformity in most intranational political ideologies worldwide. Though I would not agree "most countries" don't have parties similar to America's GOP.
I think it'd be more accurate to say most Western European and Western European-descent countries do not have parties like America's GOP. Meanwhile, most non-Western European or non-Western European-descent countries do not have parties like America's Democrat Party.
For example, every major political party in Asia and Africa, with very few exceptions, pursues an ethnonationalist agenda. This is more akin to the modern American GOP than the modern American Democrat Party. On the other hand, in Western Europe, ethnonationalist parties tend to be not only out of favor, but illegal.
America is a rather strange country politically in that regard. Half of it is more like Western Europe. The other half is more like the rest of the world. In that sense, I suppose it is a bit like if you created a country made up half of England and half of China. The result would be a type of tumult similar to that of the U.S. (if a bit more extreme).
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#198Earlier quoted context omitted.
race noun Definition of race for Students 1 : any one of the groups that human beings can be divided into based on shared distinctive physical traits >>> 2 : a group of individuals who share a common culture or history the English race 3 : a major group of living things the human race https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/race
> share a common culture or history Americans do not share a common culture or history. We share a political system that is at least in theoretically based on guaranteeing the freedom to participate in whatever culture you want, that isn't limited to people of a specific historical association (either by genetics or citizenship). > the English race While England does have a history and culture that traditionally was…
For a different but useful definition, from the Crown Prosecution Service in the UK:
> The Act says a "racial group" means a "group of persons defined by reference to race, colour, nationality (including citizenship) or ethnic or national origins."
https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/racist-and-religious-h...
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#199This is bad news. People like Sergey Brin, co-founder of Google, Elon Musk, founder of Tesla and SpaceX, not to mention CEOs of Google, Microsoft and Adobe all came to the US as students. Without the immigration of the brightest on the planet, the US will, over time, lose its edge.
Sergey was 6 years old when his family and him moved to the USA.
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U overstated it vastly...In China, UK degrees got so inflated, many of which being one year master, that they are pretty useless now.Oversea working experience is still valued
In China, UK degrees got so inflated This is driven by ex-poly degree mills cashing in. If you’re studying in the UK it’s Russell Group is still prestigious for the right reasons. Otherwise the value is questionable.
Yes I though about doing a masters in cyber but it would only be worth it if I did it at Oxbridge or better Cranfield though id have needed a sponsor for that one :-)