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Researcher Who Stopped WannaCry Ransomware Detained in US After Def Con

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Re: Researcher Who Stopped WannaCry Ransomware Detained in US After Def Con

#191

FYI, if you've committed any form of cybercrime in the previous 3 years (edit: the statute of limitations is 5 years for most federal computer crimes, as pointed out below), you should avoid such conferences in the US for exactly this reason. You probably aren't as smart as you think, and there may be a sealed arrest warrant for you. The FBI waits for these kinds of conferences to do exactly what they did here. Anoth…

This is really flippant, but you could just generalise to "avoid the US."

Re: Researcher Who Stopped WannaCry Ransomware Detained in US After Def Con

#192
post #21

Why are people in this thread so outraged without knowing any of the facts? For all we know there might be a legitimate charge on which he was arrested. As per him being untraceable, if he was not read his rights then the FBI just jeopardized their own case. If no one knows where he is, it's more likely that it's what Marcus wants at the moment rather than what the FBI wants.

Why are people in this thread so outraged without knowing any of the facts? For all we know there might be a legitimate charge on which he was arrested. Because US law enforcement have consciously chosen, over the past couple of decades, to engage in activities that make them "the bad guy". It's just abductive inference and a simple bayesian prior at this point. Nobody is reaching any absolute conclusions yet, but a…

US law enforcement would be horrifically, jaw-droppingly corrupt if 20% of arrests were "malicious." But even then, 80% of arrests would be non-malicious, so a very strong prior that a given arrest is malicious would be completely unreasonable.

"US law enforcement is the bad guy, therefore any given choice they make is probably evil" is fiction-logic. It works in movies, not in real life.

Re: Researcher Who Stopped WannaCry Ransomware Detained in US After Def Con

#193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many, many countries are brutal, totalitarian dictatorships. Doesn't mean we have an excuse to sink to their level. I couldn't imagine this story coming from, say, Germany or Sweden.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-sweden-piratebay-idUSKBN0E... https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/05/22/julian-assange-swede...

The first article is about Peter Sunde. Another TPB founder, Gottfrid Svartholm Warg was treated even worse, being held in solitary confinement for months before his trial. Which sadly happens way too often.

http://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayNews.aspx?Ne...

> Among the issues discussed during the session:

> [...] excessive length of pre-trial detention [...] wide use of solitary confinement

Re: Researcher Who Stopped WannaCry Ransomware Detained in US After Def Con

#194
post #7

As much as this article contains very little information,this sounds very much like something the US will do. Whenever someone has to be the butt of some global joke .....somehow the US has to be the one to step up. Taking someone into custody for 18 hours without giving the family or press any information. How different is this from Iran or North Korea? Two things could've happened here IMO. They asked for the domai…

Who’s to say he didn’t call his family? The linked article cites a “close personal friend” who has been in contact. The fact they didn’t give a heads up to random reporters and Twitter users after arresting someone isn’t scandalous.

Re: Researcher Who Stopped WannaCry Ransomware Detained in US After Def Con

#195

FYI, if you've committed any form of cybercrime in the previous 3 years (edit: the statute of limitations is 5 years for most federal computer crimes, as pointed out below), you should avoid such conferences in the US for exactly this reason. You probably aren't as smart as you think, and there may be a sealed arrest warrant for you. The FBI waits for these kinds of conferences to do exactly what they did here. Anoth…

This is really flippant, but you could just generalise to "avoid the US."

Not flippant at all. The US is becoming a dangerous place to visit.

Re: Researcher Who Stopped WannaCry Ransomware Detained in US After Def Con

#196

FYI, if you've committed any form of cybercrime in the previous 3 years (edit: the statute of limitations is 5 years for most federal computer crimes, as pointed out below), you should avoid such conferences in the US for exactly this reason. You probably aren't as smart as you think, and there may be a sealed arrest warrant for you. The FBI waits for these kinds of conferences to do exactly what they did here. Anoth…

> FYI, if you've committed any form of cybercrime

According to the US definition of cybercrime. So you could be totally innocent in your country, and have done nothing directly in the US.

Re: Researcher Who Stopped WannaCry Ransomware Detained in US After Def Con

#197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He broke a law?

Why would that prevent him from securing legal representation?

It hasn’t even been a day and you have no idea if he has legal representation or not. Give it a couple days before starting up the outrage machine.

Re: Researcher Who Stopped WannaCry Ransomware Detained in US After Def Con

#198
better summary: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-cyber-arrest-idUSKBN1A...

insightful thread also delving into wannacry: https://twitter.com/3L3V3NTH/status/893181445824446464

edit: there is a nice HN discussion already about the bitcoin: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14918545

Re: Researcher Who Stopped WannaCry Ransomware Detained in US After Def Con

#199

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There are absolutely details: > Motherboard verified that a detainee called Marcus Hutchins, 23, was being held at the Henderson Detention Center in Nevada early on Thursday. So at least we know he was detained. This one relies on a friend, so presumably it's "less verified" as far as these things go: > A few hours after, Hutchins was moved to another facility, according to a close personal friend. I don't know if Mo…

Detained for what? You don't know. I mean, I agree, detainment isn't usually the way to make friends, but those are not specific details of the incident.

We should have overwhelming confidence that people are detained for good reasons. Given US's track record, it is entirely reasonable to think that it's not the case, until demonstrated otherwise by proof brought forward by the agressor.

Re: Researcher Who Stopped WannaCry Ransomware Detained in US After Def Con

#200
post #51

I'm curious what charges are being brought against him. For all we know, this detention is completely unrelated to WannaCry. We shall see.

He ran a carding forum in the past, malkit.ws and then malkit.su. Virustotal passive DNS shows that it was hosted for a time on the same server as his old irc, irc.voidptr.cz https://www.virustotal.com/en/ip-address/188.190.99.148/info...

I don't think he directly ran his own IRC, it was a "in partnership with another organization" sort of thing.
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