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Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Post by dingo_bat » Tue, Jul 25, 2017, 11:27 AM UTC

OkGoDoIt wrote: post #72

opdahl wrote: post #11

What is, and has been great about MS Paint is that no matter what Windows machine I have been on, I know that I have had it available. No matter if it's my old grandma's computer, if I have needed to quickly do something simple with an image, MS Paint has always been there for me. Now that will no longer be the case. If I have to download and install it on the computer before I use it, then what is the point? It will…

Additionally you can't download apps off the windows store unless you sign up for /into a Microsoft account, which is a much bigger pain than simply downloading the first app you find searching on Google. Also my corporate windows 10 laptop has the entire window store and modern app infrastructure disabled, meaning I would not be able to access MS Paint.

I don't think this is true anymore.

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Post by dingo_bat » Tue, Jul 25, 2017, 11:31 AM UTC

proactivesvcs wrote: post #86

opdahl wrote: post #11

What is, and has been great about MS Paint is that no matter what Windows machine I have been on, I know that I have had it available. No matter if it's my old grandma's computer, if I have needed to quickly do something simple with an image, MS Paint has always been there for me. Now that will no longer be the case. If I have to download and install it on the computer before I use it, then what is the point? It will…

More pertinently, what happens when your grandma searches for "MS Paint" in the Store, other than needing an account? We all know the store is mostly trash and I have no doubt that people pushing their trash will leap on this chance to flood the search results for relevant keywords.

Grandma will first search paint in the start menu. And then she will open the highlighted entry labelled 'Paint 3D'. Then she will promptly close the abomination that appears on screen after 10 seconds.

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Post by dingo_bat » Tue, Jul 25, 2017, 11:32 AM UTC

grecy wrote: post #100

adtac wrote: post #94

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What updates do you want to see in MS Paint? It's feature complete. Bug fixes?

At a minimum, an assurance it works in Windows 20+

Windows 10 is the last version of windows.

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Post by bitwize » Tue, Jul 25, 2017, 11:36 AM UTC

aerovistae wrote: post #57

hasenj wrote: post #51

So .. what? It always struck my as a toy program (kind of like how Notepad seems like a toy text editor). When was the last time you could get anything done with MS Paint?

Uh, every single time I wanted to quickly circle something in a screenshot? Every time I wanted to quickly crop an image? Every time I wanted to draw a diagram? MS Paint has been there for me through thick and thin. Yeah, I'm not about to become a graphic artist with it, but what does that have to do with anything? And what's more, I don't know what you're on about with Notepad. I've taken more notes in Notepad than…

Indeed. Why isn't Microsoft thinking of its enterprise Paint users?

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Post by SwellJoe » Tue, Jul 25, 2017, 11:36 AM UTC

philtar wrote: post #171

SwellJoe wrote: post #141

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"When confronted by the fact that they weren't, you went to "oh it changed the defaults."" I didn't change my position on this complaint. I said the same in the initial post. Changing my defaults is shitty behavior on the part of Microsoft, and as far as I know (which is admittedly limited), they do it with every application they make. "Then you complain about being unable to Uninstaller it when it's uninstall proces…

> It is not like literally every other application. It does not appear in the Programs and Features list with an uninstall option. I googled it just to make sure I wasn't misremembering since you seem so certain, but others have the same problem. And the solutions are unpleasant: https://www.windowscentral.com/how-completely-remove-paint-3... . Are you going to try to tell me that using the command line and editing t…

What are you trying to achieve here? What would you like me to say?

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Post by psyc » Tue, Jul 25, 2017, 11:37 AM UTC

roryisok wrote: post #159

BrockSamson wrote: post #140

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This is my problem with Windows 10. It is no longer an operating system it is an advertising platform.

It's both. Having ads on some apps doesn't make it not an OS anymore. I won't deny it's an advertising platform, just like android or ios or television or radio or the internet. And while it's equally annoying on all those media/systems, it doesn't lessen their or usefulness

There are ads in the Windows UI. I've been an iOS user for 9 years and can't recall seeing an ad in the OS. So it does not seem "just like" iOS, at all.

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Post by kyberias » Tue, Jul 25, 2017, 11:37 AM UTC

ralish wrote: post #68

jmkni wrote: post #36

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Context menus close when you use the snipping tool.

Hence the Delay option.

Thanks. I've always struggled with this and only now realized that Delay-option in Snipping tool.

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Post by dingo_bat » Tue, Jul 25, 2017, 11:39 AM UTC

faeyanpiraat wrote: post #173

Okay so when I first heard this, I was kind of enraged, because I use paint daily for screenshots, ad-hoc cropping and stuff. And when I tried Paint3D in the past it was garbage. Someone in this thread said that it is actually easy to crop with it, and I tried again, and yes it is actually a bearable experience, but scaling the image gives a crappy quality, so it is a no-go. Then I got the Win+Shift+S screen clipping…

Snipping tool is not UWP. So someday some dev in Microsoft will convert it to UWP and you'll have Snip 3D. And snipping tool will become a download from the store. It's fucking sad because the UWP apps are almost always garbage.

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Post by bwat49 » Tue, Jul 25, 2017, 11:39 AM UTC

Klathmon wrote: post #117

richev wrote: post #109

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Hardly an "upgrade" if functionality that people use gets removed...

Something can still be an upgrade for the vast majority even if it doesn't do 100% of the same stuff as it's predecessor...

to be fair, how hard would it be to have feature parity with an app as simple as MSpaint?

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Post by bwat49 » Tue, Jul 25, 2017, 11:42 AM UTC

lou1306 wrote: post #167

carlosrg wrote: post #154

This thread shows clearly the negativity around everything Microsoft does, especially if you compare to other technology companies. Apple deprecates some API or removes a feature? "It's the future, you have to adapt, etc" Microsoft deprecates a toy program made 25 years ago, but still offers the option of downloading it for free? "How dare they, I want it in the base install, etc"

And MS Paint got laughed at for the best part of its lifecycle, and for good reasons too. But now that it's gone, everybody goes mad. Really, if you dig deep enough you might find people decrying the demise of f'ing Clippy. Well maybe that's hyperbole, but you get my point.

Clippy died for our sins