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Harvard withdraws 10 acceptances for ‘offensive’ memes in private group chat

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Re: Harvard withdraws 10 acceptances for ‘offensive’ memes in private group chat

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Racism is not simply about belief, otherwise there could be no such thing as racist action. Personally, I couldn't care less what people believe, I care what people do . And in this case what they did was clearly racist.

So should black comedians be jailed for their jokes when they generalize about other groups? Should Dave Chapelle be in prison for making jokes about white people, since that's what you're implying? Racism is defined as prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior. What these kids did was not racist.

First of all, where did I say anything about prison?

Second, this was clearly antagonism directed against someone of a different race, and is therefore racist.

Re: Harvard withdraws 10 acceptances for ‘offensive’ memes in private group chat

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post #181

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How telling that you created a throwaway to post this.

i hate usernames, facebook, real name, i believe in merit not a reputation. If i you want to hate/like me based on posts thats ok, but not if you judge me on reputation/points.

Choosing anonymity means that "you" don't exist, only your posts. So we can't like or dislike you, only clean up after you. You're literally a seagull swooping in to shit on everything. Stand behind and take responsibility for your words or nobody is going to take you seriously.

Even pseudonymity is better than what you're doing.

Re: Harvard withdraws 10 acceptances for ‘offensive’ memes in private group chat

#194

I'm so conflicted right now. On the one hand, yeah, that shit is offensive and I'm not too keen on elevating a person who makes jokes about sexual assault or violence against minorities. On the other hand I'm terrified at the creeping surveillance society that has institutions examining all of our utterances for "wrong speech", which is much too close for comfort to "wrong think", which is much too close for comfort…

Yet another SJW propaganda war against free speech i can't even grasp. Please read abut socialist culture marxism by ex kgb agent: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5It1zarINv0 >Yet another SJW propaganda war against free speech i can't even No one talking about this, freemarket i don't care, BUT we the people have to fight and post "hate speach" edege memes, about niggers, muh 6 millions, lolcaust, feminist totalitarian stte and other. We won't be silenced, by bunch of jews and SJW: 8ch.net/voat.co/tor proud user

Re: Harvard withdraws 10 acceptances for ‘offensive’ memes in private group chat

#195

I think an article such as this one is a clear example of the generational differences between older and younger people. I'm fairly close to these kids' age and I've browsed memes from /r/dankmemes and enjoyed them. The thing is, is that these memes are supposed to be self-aware of how offensive they are. That's the joke. They're meant to be so offensive and ridiculous that reactions can be drawn from outside spectat…

It's not a new thing. Dead baby jokes have been around forever, and popular comedians often use similar black humor. The article mentions the card game cards against humanity. Which is pretty popular and based on the same premise. I used to really like black humor. I frequently told dead baby jokes and similar stuff. Thank god that wasn't recorded. I'm alarmed to see many of the comments here outraged over the stuff…

> The article mentions the card game cards against humanity. Which is pretty popular and based on the same premise.

Except that the premise of Cards Against Humanity is that you are all opting in to the situation where you expect that, and usually an a somewhat private setting.

The equivalent to the CAH suggestion would be where some private group of people indicated that to become members, you had to go to a public cafe and play CAH loudly in public. Were that Cafe to get mad at you and ban you from their premises, getting upset at that outcome is rather silly. You either knew that was a possibly outcome, or you should have known. In any case, that Cafe is well within their rights to decide they want nothing to do with you anymore.

Re: Harvard withdraws 10 acceptances for ‘offensive’ memes in private group chat

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Considering how competitive the acceptance criteria are for Harvard (2,056 out of 39,506 applications), this is just another decision point. Now 10 other people are able to get in, and the entire body of current and prospective students have learned a valuable lesson about privacy and free speech.

Yet another SJW propaganda war against free speech i can't even grasp. Please read abut socialist culture marxism by ex kgb agent: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5It1zarINv0 >Yet another SJW propaganda war against free speech i can't even No one talking about this, freemarket i don't care, BUT we the people have to fight and post "hate speach" edege memes, about niggers, muh 6 millions, lolcaust, feminist totalitarian stte and other. We won't be silenced, by bunch of jews and SJW: 8ch.net/voat.co/tor proud user

Re: Harvard withdraws 10 acceptances for ‘offensive’ memes in private group chat

#197

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I agree that what they posted was offensive. But we can't start holding graduating high school students to the same standards we hold world and business leaders. Ironically, we didn't for Trump, but that's certainly the idea. Revoking one's admission to Harvard is a really rough way to teach the lesson of what you're supposed to and not supposed to say. College is the time to not only learn new ideas, but also to un-…

I don't think that standards should be lowered for high school seniors. These are people who are legally allowed to vote, join the army, buy guns, etc.., and for these people it's go to Harvard. They should know that it's unacceptable to share memes about sexual violence, racism, and whatnot, especially on Facebook. When I was in 6th grade (I'm 21 now), my school gave us the talk about the internet, saying that whate…

  Maybe getting the acceptances revoked is just the kick in the ass that they need.
That is MAJORLY different then getting yelled at by your mom. If you asked any of these 10 kids if they'd rather

1) Get yelled at by an authority figure, or

2) Have your acceptance rescinded

I guarantee all of them will choose option 1. By the way, you're very lucky to have a parent who cares enough to teach you valuable lesson.

Re: Harvard withdraws 10 acceptances for ‘offensive’ memes in private group chat

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>Doesn't make them less private. Yes, it does actually.

What about government contractors? They're funded by the government. Your way of thinking about it taints every dollar that passes through government, forcing everything that deals with the government to be treated as part of the government.

Government contractors are already quite regulated as a result of their status.

For example: http://www.bairdholm.com/publications-feed/entry/president-o...

Re: Harvard withdraws 10 acceptances for ‘offensive’ memes in private group chat

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post #191

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So should black comedians be jailed for their jokes when they generalize about other groups? Should Dave Chapelle be in prison for making jokes about white people, since that's what you're implying? Racism is defined as prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior. What these kids did was not racist.

First of all, where did I say anything about prison? Second, this was clearly antagonism directed against someone of a different race, and is therefore racist.

Antagonism is hostility. You're actually the one who even mentioned this being black humor, so this can't be antagonism if we both agree these are jokes. Trying to make people laugh using taboo subjects is not antagonism.

As for prison, I'm implying what consequences you would assume for individuals who would be so vocal about what you would call their racist acts.

Re: Harvard withdraws 10 acceptances for ‘offensive’ memes in private group chat

#200

I think an article such as this one is a clear example of the generational differences between older and younger people. I'm fairly close to these kids' age and I've browsed memes from /r/dankmemes and enjoyed them. The thing is, is that these memes are supposed to be self-aware of how offensive they are. That's the joke. They're meant to be so offensive and ridiculous that reactions can be drawn from outside spectat…

How does that dynamic work in this situation in which there was not intended to be an outside audience?
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