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Opera is Reborn

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Re: Opera is Reborn

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Post by dotancohen »

AlexAffe wrote: post #166
TeMPOraL wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I can have it as a sidebar to the web browser, this actually solves multiple problems, biggest of which is screens themselves. Someone, somewhen, had that bright idea of popularizing 16:9 and 16:10 screens, which are now de-facto standard, and that leads to huge amounts of screen estate being wasted. Most of the users (i.e. those not using tiling window managers on Linux systems) don't have proper tools to manage…

Rotate it 90 degrees. 16:9 then becomes 9:16 which is a dream come true for coding for example.

I have exactly this setup. My left monitor is portrait, showing my 109 lines of code at a time, 119 characters on a line. If I ever have to deal with longer lines a keyboard shortcut moves the terminal window to the landscape monitor and VIM automatically resizes the content.

Re: Opera is Reborn

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Post by throwanem »

cryptarch wrote: post #142
bigbugbag wrote: post #69

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Is this limited to Opera and China ? This kind of reasoning also applies to facebook, any alphabet or google product/service, apple, uber, airbnb, and pretty much any company/service that's based in the US where the patriot act pretty much makes all these companies open bar for the US government.

For me, no. Fuck all of them. I particularly hate Facebook though, for turning most everyone around me into US informants. If I see the opportunity to contribute to their obsoletion I'll dedicate years of my life to that.

You might find Urbit of interest, if you haven't looked into it before now.

Re: Opera is Reborn

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Post by symmetricsaurus »

Ok, so I installed it to try it out.

Trying to get the WhatsApp widget running it seems like I must allow access to the camera and the microphone on my computer.

This is ridiculous.

On mobile, this is not needed, and is maybe even fine. When the app is turned off you know it isn't listening or taking pictures.

On a desktop computer there is no such guarantee. On the other hand this applies to all software I'm running. Maybe it's time to put a piece of tape over the camera.

Re: Opera is Reborn

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Post by jkozera »

hoschicz wrote: post #153
Kholo wrote: post #14

Hey opera folks who might be reading this - work on simplifying offline access to web content. I want to be able to maintain ~100 GB of offline data store, full text searchable. Wikipedia, stackexchange\stackoverflow, khan academy, zealdocs and whole bunch of other sources of useful browser renderable web content provide dumps of their data. And then they end up having to build spl apps and extensions and other garba…

Is this actually possible with a extension or another program? Id love that! kiwix doesnt support stackoverflow...

http://zestdocs.org/ is my old project I've abandoned with similar idea. If anyone feels like continuing/rewriting, or perhaps even taking over the domain, GitHub organization, macOS app, or whatever really, you can email me via hn at the website's domain. (Note that I've set up the MX records there only a few minutes ago, so it may take some retries to be able to reach this email.)

Re: Opera is Reborn

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Post by jhasse »

cryptarch wrote: post #142
bigbugbag wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this limited to Opera and China ? This kind of reasoning also applies to facebook, any alphabet or google product/service, apple, uber, airbnb, and pretty much any company/service that's based in the US where the patriot act pretty much makes all these companies open bar for the US government.

For me, no. Fuck all of them. I particularly hate Facebook though, for turning most everyone around me into US informants. If I see the opportunity to contribute to their obsoletion I'll dedicate years of my life to that.

> If I see the opportunity to contribute to their obsoletion I'll dedicate years of my life to that.

Here you go: https://www.bountysource.com/teams/diaspora

Re: Opera is Reborn

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Post by JohnJamesRambo »

Jedd wrote: post #150

> Social messengers completely changed our lives, by allowing us to work, discover new things and communicate at the same time. Nope. > One of its novelties is the ability to seamlessly hop between discovering new content and chatting with friends, or even share online discoveries while browsing. Happily I know no one that uses, or will use, this new version of Opera - I can imagine few things that would disrupt, ann…

>even more random thoughts from the easily distracted.

It's like if Twitter could get in your browsing.

Re: Opera is Reborn

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Post by wjoe »

lucb1e wrote: post #28

I'd like to try, but I'd probably not end up using it because it's not open source. I feel silly for rejecting a product based on that, but openness is important to me. Here's for hoping they open source it soon!

Same for me. Some of the changes Opera have been making are interesting, and they do seem to be doing more with the UI than Firefox and Chrome, who are removing as much UI as possible. But the social messenger stuff doesn't interest me, and having stuff like Facebook hard wired into a browser without having the source to know what it's actually sending to them really puts me off. I know Chromium is open source, but the interesting bits are in the stuff they've added on top, which is not.

Re: Opera is Reborn

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Post by marcus_holmes »

tnone wrote: post #189
TeMPOraL wrote: post #165

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> Or, since we all have widescreen monitors (and often multiple monitors) you could just have your messengers in a window next to the browser instead of a sidebar within the browser. Except that - unless you're on a tiling WM on Linux - your window manager sucks, and solution like this is barely usable (hard to keep the windows properly aligned, hard to have them simultaneously on the foreground when other windows co…

I'm on OSX and it magnetically snaps windows together as they get close. Makes it easy to divide ad hoc. As for messengers, what would be revolutionary is if you could actually use all these fragmented messengers in a single app.

This. So much this.

I want an app that remembers which of the messaging apps each of my friends prefers, and routes messages appropriately.

If I block someone, it blocks them on all the apps I've ever talked to them on.

I think I use over 5 messaging apps (including sms) on a regular basis. Too many.

Re: Opera is Reborn

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Post by digi_owl »

oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #137
neotek wrote: post #112

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God I'd love to be able to do that in Chrome. Managing tabs totally fucking sucks, I hate that I can't combine multiple tabs into a single drop-down, or easily change the title of a tab, or tighten up the spacing, or anything I should be able to do in a modern browser.

Not being able to move tabs with the keyboard annoys me more than it should. Of course, I also wish the switching used the same method as window-switching, but I really wish tab/window/app switching was globally handled by the OS, and fully configurable in terms of behaviour.

Funny because back in the day there were no tabs.

If you wanted multiple sites open you had multiple browser windows on the taskbar.

That became unmanageable quite fast, so we got tabs.

Note btw that even the earliest Opera had "tabs". It used MDI to provide multiple sites within a single browser window. This stuck with Opera all the way to version 12. After that they changed over to being a Chrome clone.

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