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Why would I want a messenger application embedded in my web browser? What advantage does that have over simply having it as a separate application?
I think if Opera had a price that would be a major distinguishing point from the other browsers. Tailor to those users IMHO.
Why would I want a messenger application embedded in my web browser? What advantage does that have over simply having it as a separate application?
Someone, somewhen, had that bright idea of popularizing 16:9 and 16:10 screens, which are now de-facto standard, and that leads to huge amounts of screen estate being wasted. Most of the users (i.e. those not using tiling window managers on Linux systems) don't have proper tools to manage screen space, and especially web browsers when maximized waste most of it.
So TLDR; yeah, I could use a messenger tab side by side with rest of the browser tabs, because I have a shit ton of useless screen space with a maximized browser window.
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That's a bit of a false equivalence. Letting me do something while you watch is not the same as you stopping (and punishing) me from doing it right away. You can argue which one is worse from a moral perspective, but they are not the same. As for the shitty foreign policy - if I had to buy only stuff produced in "ethical" countries, I'd be living naked and eating only dried fish.
You've never been to a farmer's market? There's a thing called "chilling effects". People stop talking about "risky" subjects because they know they can get prosecuted arbitrarily for it. The gameplan is simple: * Someone says something the government doesn't like. * A plan is devised to get this person in jail and/or to discredit them and/or to ruin their careers. * In the case of jail, evidence for a crime is colle…
It's a very different thing, simply because it cannot be deployed on a large scale. It's equivalent to old-school spycraft of honey-trapping and blackmailing. You can apply this process to a few individuals, but not to everyone without massive effort - the framing and follow-up takes too much manpower - and without risking reputation damage from repeated abuses.
On the other hand, detecting you really broke an openly-accepted law, triggering police intervention and letting the system work as it should, is trivial in the extreme.
Sorry, I'm not a fan of the US system but China is still a step below IMHO.
>desktops and laptops, while theoretically more powerful multitasking tools, have been left behind >Browsing and chatting simultaneously is cumbersome and inefficient now, as you need to switch between tabs when responding to a message Or, since we all have widescreen monitors (and often multiple monitors) you could just have your messengers in a window next to the browser instead of a sidebar within the browser. See…
Except that - unless you're on a tiling WM on Linux - your window manager sucks, and solution like this is barely usable (hard to keep the windows properly aligned, hard to have them simultaneously on the foreground when other windows come into the mix, etc. etd.).
I agree that solutions like that shouldn't be in browsers. But it's cheaper this way for the app vendors...
Why would I want a messenger application embedded in my web browser? What advantage does that have over simply having it as a separate application?
If I can have it as a sidebar to the web browser, this actually solves multiple problems, biggest of which is screens themselves. Someone, somewhen, had that bright idea of popularizing 16:9 and 16:10 screens, which are now de-facto standard, and that leads to huge amounts of screen estate being wasted. Most of the users (i.e. those not using tiling window managers on Linux systems) don't have proper tools to manage…
Why would I want a messenger application embedded in my web browser? What advantage does that have over simply having it as a separate application?
If I can have it as a sidebar to the web browser, this actually solves multiple problems, biggest of which is screens themselves. Someone, somewhen, had that bright idea of popularizing 16:9 and 16:10 screens, which are now de-facto standard, and that leads to huge amounts of screen estate being wasted. Most of the users (i.e. those not using tiling window managers on Linux systems) don't have proper tools to manage…
>desktops and laptops, while theoretically more powerful multitasking tools, have been left behind >Browsing and chatting simultaneously is cumbersome and inefficient now, as you need to switch between tabs when responding to a message Or, since we all have widescreen monitors (and often multiple monitors) you could just have your messengers in a window next to the browser instead of a sidebar within the browser. See…
And have all links from external app open in a window depending on which was the last one you've used, and having to open links from chat and then drag them to the main browser window. No thanks.
Why would I want a messenger application embedded in my web browser? What advantage does that have over simply having it as a separate application?
I'm not going to disagree with your point in principle, but pragmatically that is how a lot of people are already using messenger apps. Whether it's having Facebook open in the browser and using FB Messenger, or Electron apps like Slack that have a full instance of Chrome running just for a messenger app.
Electron apps aren't relevant – I'm talking about the user experience, not the underlying technology. As far as the user is concerned, Slack is a standalone application.