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Re: Sublime Text 3 dev build 3128 released

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Post by plafl »

news_to_me wrote: post #127

I love Sublime Text. I really dislike heavy IDEs, so for me, it's almost the perfect editor. But... am I the only person who wants a minimal editor like Sublime, plus an inline debugger? Debugging where you edit code is one of those super-features that I really don't understand why people prefer not to have it. Ideally it would be something generic and lightweight, with the ability to extend via plugins. The debuggin…

You can have it with Emacs, depending on the language you are using. I have used C/gdb out of the box quite happily and now I use python (elpy) and it works although with some annoying glitches from time to time. Other languages don't work quite well.

Re: Sublime Text 3 dev build 3128 released

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Post by jdi »

bpicolo wrote: post #140
xienze wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're describing VS Code. Now you may not think it's lightweight, but for anyone not toiling away on a turn of the century machine it's plenty fast and has great debugging facilities.

I actually switched to VS Code vs Sublime for most tasks just recently. It has a few quirks (looking at you, files that just close for no reason) and isn't quite as quick, but the language/debugging packages and support are just leagues better.

> ... files that just close for no reason)

Do you mean if you select (preview) a file from the tree browser on the left, the file appears, but if you select another one, it goes away ?

Use this setting/preferrence:

"workbench.editor.enablePreviewFromQuickOpen": false,

Re: Sublime Text 3 dev build 3128 released

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Post by mos_basik »

educar wrote: post #170
mos_basik wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...as a sublime user, I go back to vim when I have to open really large files. I've never used vscode, but this makes me wonder how small a file has to be for vscode to manipulate it quickly.

I have had better luck with sublime when opening very very long lines (think 56k chars). This comes from a sqldump. Even vim was not up to the task.

My case was also a sqldump, actually. I forget what I eventually did. I think it had to do with hitting Ctrl-C to stop the entire file from loading up front, and only load the page I was looking at.

The link to this SO question was purple when I Googled this just now: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/908575/how-to-edit-multi-...

In retrospect, I do remember also messing around with disabling syntax highlighting and splitting the file up into more manageable chunks that I loaded into separate buffers.

For my purposes, I was trying to delete certain portions of the dump - so vim was the perfect tool to do something like "delete everything from line 850 to the next time this regex is matched", with a minimum of scrolling around and rendering things unnecessarily. iirc, Sublime just locked up and refused to scroll.

I wonder if I could have used Vintage to do what I wanted in Sublime?

Re: Sublime Text 3 dev build 3128 released

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Post by xienze »

asaddhamani wrote: post #185
xienze wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're describing VS Code. Now you may not think it's lightweight, but for anyone not toiling away on a turn of the century machine it's plenty fast and has great debugging facilities.

I tried Sublime and VS Code with plugins, but I found the autocomplete to be really subpar compared to JetBrains IDEs, which I use day-to-day for work. Any plugins for JavaScript and Python that would improve that situation?

Unfortunately, I doubt you're going to get these same level of autocompletion as IntelliJ et al simply due to the amount of indexing that IDE does.

Re: Sublime Text 3 dev build 3128 released

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Post by gmiller123456 »

ndh2 wrote: post #151
klum wrote: post #6

The creator of Sublime Text tends to go silent for long periods between stretches of activity, which always makes me wonder about the future of the project. It's a shame, since ST is a well-thought-out editor with great attention to detail, and of course the speed argument (compared to Atom and VS Code), while beaten to death, still holds true. Of course, it's up to the author himself to choose how he communicates, m…

That is exactly the reason why I haven't bought a license yet. I consider the license an investment in Sublime's future. Since I don't have to pay, buying a license is more of a donation in order to show support. But the communication seems a bit too sparse/erratic for me to have much trust in this project. The time spans between updates, blog posts, or even tweets are simply way too long. I also consider the existen…

> I consider the license an investment in Sublime's future.

I'm exactly the opposite. I consider the license as compensation for work already done, I operate under the assumption that the vendor will have made enough to not care to work on it further.

Re: Sublime Text 3 dev build 3128 released

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Post by swift »

coldtea wrote: post #116
enraged_camel wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In this day and age, I think 4 months is pretty long, yeah. But that's just my personal opinion. I think Chrome and Firefox has the right idea, with updates every 6 weeks.

> In this day and age, I think 4 months is pretty long, yeah. Most commercial desktop software, and even web services like Gmail, go on for years on end without an update. Browsers are always adding crap (like Firefox's nth cosmetic update), they should be stabler too. Once every 6 months or so at worst.

One reason for the 6 week update cadence that Firefox uses was to increase stability by reducing the pressure to include a feature in a release even if it's half baked. If not shipping at release time meant that the feature would be delayed for six months or a year while competing browsers pull ahead, there's a lot of pressure to just go ahead and release, even with known issues.

The approach, in my mind, has had mixed success, but has been a net positive overall. The biggest weakness is that it can be hard to maintain large architectural changes on a branch, which means there's still pressure to ship them in some form. (Though ideally with a configuration option to disable them by default.) Most things aren't like that, though, and for changes with a more controlled scope the six week cadence works very well.

Re: Sublime Text 3 dev build 3128 released

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Post by overcast »

xienze wrote: post #136
news_to_me wrote: post #127

I love Sublime Text. I really dislike heavy IDEs, so for me, it's almost the perfect editor. But... am I the only person who wants a minimal editor like Sublime, plus an inline debugger? Debugging where you edit code is one of those super-features that I really don't understand why people prefer not to have it. Ideally it would be something generic and lightweight, with the ability to extend via plugins. The debuggin…

You're describing VS Code. Now you may not think it's lightweight, but for anyone not toiling away on a turn of the century machine it's plenty fast and has great debugging facilities.

Once VS Code sorted out some plugins I was missing, plus the live view scrolling. I switched completely. It's updated way more often than Sublime, and I was a paying customer!

Re: Sublime Text 3 dev build 3128 released

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Post by qqilihq »

whalesalad wrote: post #187

I've had very buggy experience with the latest release. I had to roll back to 3124. My sidebar file list was always empty and it just had wacky behavior. It is a dev build, afterall. That changelog is massive (!!!) but I am very disappointed in the fact that support for font ligatures (Fira Code) continues to get pushed out – https://forum.sublimetext.com/t/support-font-ligatures/17654

Can confirm the sidebar issue. Sometimes the sidebar is empty, sometimes messed up and entries appear multiple times. Also reverted to 3124. Like the new icon though and looking forward to the next release.

Re: Sublime Text 3 dev build 3128 released

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Post by xgbi »

jbrooksuk wrote: post #75
xgbi wrote: post #74

For those of us that don't own a license, can I use that build without a license?

No. The dev builds are only available for users with a license. > Sublime Text 3 dev builds are currently available to registered users only. https://www.sublimetext.com/3dev

OK, I read that and didn't understand the "registered" (should be "users that have a License"). I understood as "registered on the forum" and figured I could try it. It ended up erasing my non-dev sublime text :'(

Re: Sublime Text 3 dev build 3128 released

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Post by jsz0 »

SippinLean wrote: post #50
Philipp__ wrote: post #28

If Sublime only had definite release! It's wonderful GUI editor! I stopped using it years ago when I switched to Vim and Emacs, but if it gets released I will buy it for sure, at least to have it on my work machine. I like editing text in it, everything is so smooth and well looking, and it doesn't feel bloated. And I just hate all those Electron based editors, no matter how much incrementally they get better from mo…

On the contrary, I still miss the speed of ST but the price-vs-feature ratio on VSC is too high for me to ignore anymore. No way the boss will shell out $70 per license if/when ST3 is ever released (now that half our team has dropped it anyway). Guess what you said about not relying on "public opinion" includes your own.

> No way the boss will shell out $70 per license if/when ST3 is ever released

Yeah this is how it always goes. The 'almost as good but totally free' alternative almost always wins in the long run. Even when the cost isn't an issue it's just inconvenient to buy anything in most companies. Most people don't have expense accounts, company credit cards or simply don't want to deal with the hassle of paying out of pocket and getting reimbursed.

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