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Guessing it's your browsing history (courtesy of including js from a Google domain) plus mouse tracking. It doesn't seem much different than the current "click here" one to me. They are just letting the page owner substitute their own button in lieu of the check box.
Is that why I always have to solve a challenge? Because I use Privacy Badger and uBlock Origin?
Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA
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What's wrong with them building a profile of me as long as I consented to it? Are you opposed to consenting agreements between willing adults and companies?
Well besides the creepy factor of what this data could be used for, the average user doesn't "consent" to it, because they have no idea it happens.
It seems like you have a problem with people consenting to things you don't like, just like homophobes have problems with gays because they personally don't like consenting to same sex intercourse and think gays are ignorant of some facts (they're going to hell etc), maybe people don't care or believe in these facts and are just enjoying themselves, ever thought of that? What's the problems if other people enjoy things you don't? Live and let live.
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That probably refers to check whether the mouse moves like a human or more bot-like. Recaptcha does more than that though. It checks if you are logged into any other Google services, whether your browser user agent matches your actual browser, and I think one or two more things.
It's more urban legend than fact, recaptcha checks your google cookies and little else. They initially marketed it as looking for "human signs" such as mouse movements but they didn't, and AFAIK they still don't.
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#195"Powering these advances is machine learning and a combination of threat yadda yadda" Looks like they do little more than just check for a Google cookie [1]. [1]. https://www.blackhat.com/docs/asia-16/materials/asia-16-Siva... edit: still, it's far better than the previous state of captchas. I'm glad they did this. But it's like for anything to be considered "advanced" or "good" in tech lately, it has to have been po…
Well, technically, it is machine learning. Only that the machine learning was likely part of the usual data mining on google accounts and not much specific to the captcha problem... (That said, whenever I used that checkbox widget they had before this announcement, there was a noticeable framerate drop in the browser while the thing was doing its magic. So I suspect, they are at least doing some browser fingerprintin…
If your browser is standard (AKA no anti-fingerprinting plugins) and your advertising cookies are not blocked (privacy or adblocker plugins) you'll probably pass with no issues.
If either of those is not true, you have to solve a bunch of image captchas.
Mouse/keyboard input analysis was just marketing talk; at least when they first released the nocaptcha it wasn't even captured.
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What's wrong with them building a profile of me as long as I consented to it? Are you opposed to consenting agreements between willing adults and companies?
Because, in 5 , 10, or 200 years. When societies (or rules) change, it will be used to discriminate or worse. "Whoever doesn't study history is doomed to repeat it.'
Obligatory xkcd about it https://xkcd.com/792/
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Why isn't it in my interest to be shown ads that offer me goods and services of my interests?
Because ads are evil. They are bedrock of all worldwide bullshit and scam. They make seller don’t care about reputation, competitors and eventually product quality. They transfer products completion into ads competition. They make all products more expensive because of this “advertising tax”. They turn off customer’s head to make a zombie who buys best advertised product instead of one with the best quality. They are…
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But you use their service for free, right?
Neither the host or google ask for money in exchange for their services. The profitability of their chosen business model is not my concern. If they want something in return, perhaps they should consider setting up a paywall.
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Not sure if that's good for us. We're doing work for google for free. Google Translate will replace translators, Google car will replace drivers, Google VR + map will replace city guides. We're giving them knowledge and powers to replace us, for free. Professions will disappear, people will lose jobs, Google will get richer and richer, will not pay me or you for fixing their suggestions in Google Translate or fixing…
I consider it more a donation towards posterity than getting stiffed on some short term compensation. It's just an opinion, but if the things Google has created and shared into the whole of human knowledge towards the betterment of future societies are still being used in a century for my grandkids (and the rest of humankind) to benefit from, then I think it's better than not having it because a few million people wh…
Do they really share it, though? You can't download and reuse data from Google Maps or Street View the way you can from OpenStreetMap, say.
I'm not saying this is a fatal problem. Google Maps is a lot more popular than OSM so the free-with-ads closed source approach clearly has a lot going for it. But the data isn't public, they own it.