This is nice of course, but without C++ support it has very little appeal to me. I don't want to learn C# to write iOS apps. I might learn it just for fun, but I will continue writing the iOS apps with Swift/Objective-C and C++. C++ support is the weak spot of Xcode and so far I haven't found a suitable IDE for C++, except maybe Qt Creator and several IntelliJ-based IDEs, which are ok but not on par with Visual Studi…
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I don't now where you lived the past 20 years but theses are maybe the most classical arguments against mac in business. Mac have never been "for Pro" if you go that way. So I guess it confirm that it's not the company that shifted it's focus, but maybe there is more potentials customers expectation of Apple going more "pro".
They may be classics, but are they wrong? Yes, Apple has never targeted businesses, but they did target individuals professionnals at some point. Video and sound editors used to work on Macs, and now move to windows. It's a classic, but is it wrong?
However this recent announcement from IBM might emphasis the need to reconsider theses year old arguments to take accounts of new facts : https://www.jamf.com/blog/debate-over-ibm-confirms-that-macs...
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> an arbitrary habit that you've grown comfortable with You mean a workflow? Who are you (or anyone else) to decide what works best for me? Am I not capable of making my own decisions? Do I really need a hardware company making those choices for me?
Who are you (or anyone else) to decide what works best for me? Am I not capable of making my own decisions? Do I really need a hardware company making those choices for me? Did you not read beyond my first sentence? Who are we as programmers to decide what works best for our users? Were the clerks at the bank not capable of deciding for themselves if their pen and paper workflows worked better for them than the compu…
And your argument regarding publishing and banking software is a strawman intended to shift the focus away from the real argument - that of choice. Forcing a change on my workflow can have very real effects on my ability to generate income. Why should anyone be ok with that?
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>Obviously VS Code is not an IDE (as VS is) OBVIOUSLY? :D VS Code starts looking more and more like an IDE to me :-) Still looking forward to hear what people define as an IDE! Thank you for your detailed response by the way, not picking on your post, just curious what everybody finds so "unIDEish" about VS Code.
I stands for "Integrated" in IDE. Project generation, code inspection, source control, database access, refactoring, debugging, test running, etc are integrated. Visual Studio Code generates project via third party tool - dotnet new. Refactoring, code completion is done via third party tool - Roslyn (?). Etc. It's an editor with plugins. Unlike Visual Studio or Jetbrains Rider.
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If I'm debugging in an IDE or through a browsers developer tools, I absolutely use the function keys to step through/into/out of code. What should I do instead? Serious question.
Are you kidding me? How can you not see that this is nothing more than an arbitrary habit that you've grown comfortable with? Imagine the function keys had never existed to begin with. Don't you think we would have come up with a different way of stepping through code with a debugger? I understand that it's annoying to have to change your habits, but you're a developer for crying out loud: Your job is literally to ch…
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Apple is not saying anything like this, just a bunch of whiners twisting things. Just like they did after any Mac upgrade.
> WRONG. The removal of a dozen keys from an already gimped keyboard is decidedly anti-developer. I am a developer and I could not care less about function keys. Why the duck would developers need function keys? Even for Vim, the age-old advice is to remap Esc so that you keep your hands on the home row. A flexible multi-touch strip of context-aware keys can do much more things -- e.g. map debugger step moves when I'…
And used the 2nd function (volume brightness etc) as the default for touch bar.
That way the touch bar is useful and functionality of function keys is kept. I would have bought the new mbp if that's what they did.
Now I'm going to get a dell :/
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People aren't going to do development on a tablet or a smartphone anytime soon.
Don't speak too soon. "Why would you buy a PC anymore?" - Tim Cook on the iPad Pro launch. Don't be surprised if XCode for iPad Pro is a thing soon. It's becoming clear he sees iPads as the future of computing, it's all he uses personally and developing it's own apps is one of the last things it actually can't do.
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#199Interesting, but I can also see some risks with their approach. Now they have three different Visual Studios with completely different technology stacks. 1) Visual Studio for Windows (C++, I assume?) 2) Visual Studio Code (Javascript, Atom) 3) Visual Studio for Mac (C#)
Hmm I have been googling for the last 15 minutes to find the difference between visual studio and visual studio code and cant seem to find a concrete answer. I thought yours was actually a hint at what it is aimed for but when you go to: http://code.visualstudio.com/ it actually says it supports c++,c#... I still dont get what the difference is.. Having only ever developed on linux I am actually slightly excited to u…
It's not that it doesn't do the job, it's just a different workflow.
As it stands, VS Code is probably the best tool for JS/Node projects or today imho. And from what I've seen, one of the better options with plugins for go and rust.
It's also available for Windows, Mac and Linux... Much faster/lighter than others, including Atim.
I'm a fan of code, but no ties to ms...
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That article is a typical example of "If it suits me, it must suit everybody." and your post is a good example for the no-true-Scotsman-fallacy of "Noone who _really_ used it dislikes it." All I really know about this is how I feel about it and I must admit that I am going to go back to the PC world when the time comes to replace my current MBP. The offerings in the PC world are not perfect for me but they suit me be…
Agreed, I love my Macbook Pro (2015 edition), however if I have to replace it in a few years I'm not buying the current Macbook Pro, instead I'll look for a comparable Windows laptop and put Linux on it. (If only there was a real Macbook competitor out there)
The only thing it doesn't have is the battery life of the MBP, but if you want raw power, you may be plugged in most of the time anyway.