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It's a bloody mess really. http://theindicter.com/the-weaponising-of-social-part-1-the-...
that's a very long-winded way of also saying "but he does good work"
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> "well, she wore a sexy dress and followed him up to his room so maybe his claims that it was consensual are true." how is that reasonable? maybe we should ask what she claims and what he wore. but wait, what clothing indicates whether someone is a rapist? tshirts and tatty jeans? polo shirt? suit? of course clothing implies nothing. why does her wearing "sexy" clothing -- to say nothing of "sexy" being all about th…
When the police and justice system collects information about clothing, sexual history with defendant, alcohol and other drugs, they do so because these are legally relevant facts to establishing a narrative that's otherwise often too lacking in material basis. The police and justice system wish to know these facts so they know the strength of some legal narrative and what counternarratives can be supported. Wearing…
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The author says: > Tor Project’s director went on to tell Wired that someone was indeed raped, that the project is working with legal, and that she “absolutely believes” the victim. The Wired story is this: https://www.wired.com/2016/06/tor-developer-jacob-appelbaum-... There's no name, but you have the potential for a legal case to be brought up. And, at the very least, you have the Tor Project's executive director,…
> Just because repeatedly telling your colleague that you'd like to fuck-them-oh-please-why-won't-you-fuck-me isn't technically rape or something that can be elevated to a criminal charge Seems to be pretty textbook (not just "in theory", but "as applied in practice") criminal harassment; the only reason that it normally wouldn't be subject to criminal action is because usually between work colleagues, the fact that…
So what might technically be criminal might not really feel like harassment, just a massive misunderstanding...it's only when more and more people speak up that the "misunderstanding" explanation becomes hard to believe.
That said...there is one other factor specific to Tor project that I would have to guess most definitely dampened the enthusiasm to level criminal charges, no matter how justified: bringing in cops means bringing in people who will search your phone and the accuser's phone (and email, and so forth). There's no way even the most harassed person at Tor Project could go the cops without a lot of personal turmoil and doubt.
Everyone who advocates for codes of conduct needs to have a hard look at the Appelbaum story and answer cogently how a code of conduct would have defended against Jacob Appelbaum. That's the great weakness, they do not work at all against anyone in an elevated social position.
Perhaps I am being stereotypically Texan here, but sometimes I wish there was space in our legal and ethical system to kick someone's ass for behavior that doesn't reach the level of provable criminality but that still calls for more than a sharp rebuke, public shaming, or ostracism. Our current status quo of 'violence is never the answer' seems to give assholes a bit too much wiggle room to make the rest of us suffe…
We banned that for a reason. _Who_ decides what calls for more than a sharp rebuke? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching
But, then again, I'm not saying we should kill anyone or even damage them permanently so I'm not sure it is fair to take the statement to that extreme.
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What someone is wearing has nothing to do with consent.
If the prosecution, in anticipation of defense strategy, believes that what a person is wearing, among a collection of facts, may be utilized by defense, then of course it's to prosecution advantage to have the police ask first on their terms, as opposed to letting the defense ask these questions on their terms. That way the police and prosecution can control the progression of fact discovery. It's because prosecutor…
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In many jurisdictions, that space does exist, because cops and prosecutors are comfortable "looking the other way" when it's clear there is a reason to do so. It is to Texas's credit that much of that state is such a jurisdiction, but in fact much of the fly-over country is. Of course, a fake-ass "anarchist" like Applebaum might file a civil suit for a well-deserved ass-kicking, but that's still sunlight.
This is one of the many reasons why Texas is filled to the brim with happy and well adjusted people.
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Yep. Common as hell though. Not only do I know many who've explicitly told me about such attacks, but basic statistics indicates that many people we know have been attacked, regardless of them telling us. (Of course people often don't speak up when attacked, because the rest of us are generally complicit in maintaining that culture, for example shaming or silencing targets.)
Has anyone actually put their real name on something saying they were personally attacked by him yet? Last I checked everything was just vague accusations, has this changed?
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> "well, she wore a sexy dress and followed him up to his room so maybe his claims that it was consensual are true." how is that reasonable? maybe we should ask what she claims and what he wore. but wait, what clothing indicates whether someone is a rapist? tshirts and tatty jeans? polo shirt? suit? of course clothing implies nothing. why does her wearing "sexy" clothing -- to say nothing of "sexy" being all about th…
When the police and justice system collects information about clothing, sexual history with defendant, alcohol and other drugs, they do so because these are legally relevant facts to establishing a narrative that's otherwise often too lacking in material basis. The police and justice system wish to know these facts so they know the strength of some legal narrative and what counternarratives can be supported. Wearing…
I agree that victims are often doubted because of drug use. (I think that's an error by police; instead of doubting the victim they should be treating the victim as a vulnerable person who was more likely to be abused)
But can you show me any examples where a rapist who claimed he had consent was doubted because he had been using drugs?
It feels as if the doubt only goes one way.
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The article links to that, and also to this "decoding" of it: https://medium.com/@frabyn/decoding-jake-appelbaum-9fa75d060...
Why decode it? Take it at face value: "I want to be clear: the accusations of criminal sexual misconduct against me are entirely false." "I’ve dedicated my life as a journalist, activist, and longtime member of the Tor Project to advocating for the transparency of public processes and to speaking out about the necessity of privacy, security, and anonymity. These are ideals that I will continue to uphold, despite the…