“But he does good work.”
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“But he does good work.”
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#2This one of the most disturbing pieces I've read on this topic. Disgusting.
"When harassment, sexual or otherwise, requires a cost-benefit analysis, you have failed."
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#3It's a bloody mess really.
http://theindicter.com/the-weaponising-of-social-part-1-the-...
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#4I guess we've reached a point where you can tell when you are looking at establishment-mandated discrediting of a fellow programmer via "community volunteers" aka shills, but are afraid to call it, because you fear you might be next.
So I will say it: This is mostly bullshit. If he did something wrong, file charges, instead of this one sided character assassination.
Aside: Listen kids, dont live in fear. Its better to burn out than to fade away.
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#5This one of the most disturbing pieces I've read on this topic. Disgusting. "When harassment, sexual or otherwise, requires a cost-benefit analysis, you have failed."
Yep. Common as hell though. Not only do I know many who've explicitly told me about such attacks, but basic statistics indicates that many people we know have been attacked, regardless of them telling us. (Of course people often don't speak up when attacked, because the rest of us are generally complicit in maintaining that culture, for example shaming or silencing targets.)
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#6I guess we've reached a point where you can tell when you are looking at establishment-mandated discrediting of a fellow programmer via "community volunteers" aka shills, but are afraid to call it, because you fear you might be next. So I will say it: This is mostly bullshit. If he did something wrong, file charges, instead of this one sided character assassination. Aside: Listen kids, dont live in fear. Its better t…
Excellent analysis on that here: http://theindicter.com/the-weaponising-of-social-part-1-the-...
It seems we have going through a regression where extrajudicial mob justice is becoming acceptable again.
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#7> Most of the outlets are having a hard time wrapping their heads around how this could go on so long within arenas whose missions are to fight against injustice and power imbalances, and to champion whistleblowers.
So, again, this was basically personal power within an in-group. It can happen in literally any in-group, because it's a social dynamic, and social dynamics don't follow the ethos of an organization, they follow human heuristics.
The "stories" make for juicy reading, but the details of this case aren't special. Jake's is one of the most blatant, obvious, ongoing examples i've heard of, but similar situations happen in a variety of ways, usually far less obvious. Since the hacker scene is very much an exclusive in-group of outsiders, this kind of person is much more accepted there. But you'll still find these kinds of situations everywhere.
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#8I disagree with the black and white view of morality that the article espouses. If people do something wrong, they should be punished, but banning them from community entirely seems a little medieval to me.
People are human, and sometimes they are complicated, and can do good and bad at the same time.
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#9This one of the most disturbing pieces I've read on this topic. Disgusting. "When harassment, sexual or otherwise, requires a cost-benefit analysis, you have failed."
Yep. Common as hell though. Not only do I know many who've explicitly told me about such attacks, but basic statistics indicates that many people we know have been attacked, regardless of them telling us. (Of course people often don't speak up when attacked, because the rest of us are generally complicit in maintaining that culture, for example shaming or silencing targets.)
Has anyone actually put their real name on something saying they were personally attacked by him yet?
Last I checked everything was just vague accusations, has this changed?
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#10It's really important that we understand why it's hard for people to stand up against abuse. It's very easy to say "I would", and maybe you would, but we see time and time again that it's hard for people to make that stand.