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Google rolls out “If This Then That” support for its $200 OnHub router

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Re: Google rolls out “If This Then That” support for its $200 OnHub router

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Charging money for hardware and then remotely disabling it sounds awfully similar to fraud.

They're giving full refunds to all their customers, so it's more like those customers got to use the device for "free" while it was available.

That is a different story. If only all vendors did the same.

Re: Google rolls out “If This Then That” support for its $200 OnHub router

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To clarify, when the power goes out, you are still able to get online? Otherwise it would seem like it would be somewhat pointless to have the networking equipment plugged into the UPS. I have worked online during a power outage using a cellular internet adapter, but obviously no UPS or router was involved there.

The outages are almost always due to load-shedding, so the POTS network doesn't lose power and our ADSL link remains connected.

Interesting! I appreciate the response. Sorry that you have to deal with that, though.

Re: Google rolls out “If This Then That” support for its $200 OnHub router

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The app also gives you insights into what's happening with your OnHub -- per device traffic sums, speed tests, alerts, etc. And we're constantly improving it. IMHO that's the real win with the OnHub; the router itself is constantly upgraded with up to date firmware with security updates and new features. And the mobile app that administrates it is constantly getting new features. Maybe I should transfer to marketing.

All due respect, as you don't represent your employer, but a LAN-facing router that is automatically updated by a PRISM partner is an immediate no for those concerned about surveillance (dragnet or targeted) inside the home. Edit: misread the specs, point still stands.

in the hypothetical case you're right, what gives you any assurance that the manufacturers of any of your other connected devices are not cooperating with the state?

Re: Google rolls out “If This Then That” support for its $200 OnHub router

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They're giving full refunds to all their customers, so it's more like those customers got to use the device for "free" while it was available.

That is a different story. If only all vendors did the same.

No, that's literally exactly the story in question. What if this is the Google answer for hardware going forward? Buy what you're interested in before it's ready, give us signal about what's good/bad, and if we kill it we pay you back what it cost.

Isn't that what we as consumers want?

Re: Google rolls out “If This Then That” support for its $200 OnHub router

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OnHub is one of the best routers I've ever owned. I've been buying custom router hardware for years -- I even went as far as building my own OpenBSD / PFsense router way back when, but nothing I've ever built (or bought!) has given me the same reliability / stability / speed as the OnHub. I'm seriously impressed with it. Also: the OnHub management app for mobile is AMAZING. It is so cool. Awesome product. Really grea…

What bothers me about this device is the necessity to have a live Google account, which takes in everything I surf in real time. I have serious reservations about this.

Create an account just for this router and fwd incoming mails to your main email.

Re: Google rolls out “If This Then That” support for its $200 OnHub router

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Pray tell, security updates for what? My router has all WAN-side management features etc. turned off, WPS is turned off and it has a long random WPA passphrase. Unless someone breaks into my apartment, there just isn't a significant potential for security risks that I'm aware of.

Unless you also disable execution of Javascript on all the devices that connect to your network (including your phones, set-top boxes, etc.), these devices can be used to attack your router from the LAN. Just use Javascript to autosubmit a form with action=" http://192.168.1.1/exploitable/endpoint/" (you can autodetect the IP, look for Javascript port scanners on Google) and you're in. And before you say that DD-WRT…

At this point it would be the best if Google just contributed to OpenWRT project itself.
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