I love the falcon wing doors but what about when it's raining? That might be a stupid question but...
It's actually superior in the rain because the doors offer rain protection from above when they are open.
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#192I love the falcon wing doors but what about when it's raining? That might be a stupid question but...
also what about when someone parks too close to you? Malls, for instance, put parking spaces tightly next to each other, so either you park like an asshole diagonally across two of them, or run the risk of someone else parking just a little bit too close to you and then your doors can't open, whereas in a standard vehicle, you'd be able to squeeze in. They should have made them slide laterally like on a minivan.
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#193Roughly estimated carbon production of manufacturing (I got these numbers from a german discussion, one source for battery carbon production is: http://www.focus.de/auto/experten/duennes/oekobilanz-von-ele... ): ------------------------------------------ VW Polo GTI: 2 tons BMW M5: 2,5 tons BMW I3: 4 tons Tesla Modell X 13 tons Manufacturing + 100.000km: -------------------------- BMW I3 -> 9,6 tons VW Polo GTI -> 18…
Source?
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#194Earlier quoted context omitted.
Warships and armoured vehicles have used internal overpressure since the 1950s, it's a basic aspect of NBC defence. And it was one of the reasons NATO warships were so sparsely equipped with portholes, no point having overpressure if Seaman Jones can leave a window open. Anyway, it really shows to me what a completely pointless vehicle this is. Yes it's a technical tour-de-force, but it does nothing to move EV adopti…
> If Tesla were to attack the low-end, where the majority of car sales occur, then I'd pay attention. Then you are not paying attention. Tesla strategy is to start at the top, with higher margins and lower volumes (meaning lower costs) and gradually move down. According to Musk the Model 3 will be available next year and cost $35k.
Not sure they can deliver. Their house-battery product was relatively cheap. But it was also ill-conceived and impractical. Largely because of capacity. It was more of a UPS than a house-power-plant, because of the extremely limited time it could run the whole house.
Consider: a large fraction of the Tesla car cost is the battery and associated systems. There's a minimum range that's considered acceptable, and even their current models barely achieve that. Using smaller/cheaper batteries to make the car cheaper will violate the minimum-range requirement. No-win here, so far.
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#195Earlier quoted context omitted.
Explain how they're lagging? They have v7 of the software in beta testers hands and the auto pilot features are a step above all other manufacturers.
As i mentioned there are many car makers which have these things since years. And they are much cheaper. Just look at the websites what you can buy from BMW, Daimler etc.
Because they also have cars for much longer too?
Tesla had (and has) to solve a difficult problem. The manufacturers you mention are all using standard internal combustion engines. Is it surprising that the can focus their attention elsewhere?
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#196How is that an SUV?
"SUV" doesn't mean anything specific. Look around you on the road: SUVs are the new minivans. People buying new cars today grew up in minivans, and the last thing you want to drive is the thing your mom drove. Give it another 20 years and I bet we see the minivan come back in style as kids growing up with SUVs now think of them as the soccer-mom-mobiles that they are.
It is a marketing term that means "we're going to sell you something you'll probably think of as a big car, but which only has to meet light truck standards". There was a time when something like a Jimmy or a Bronco was distinctly downmarket and likely to have utilitarian rubber floor mats rather than carpeting. (Yes, there were some "gentlemanly" vehicles in the general class, like the Range Rover and the Wagoneer, but most were all business.) CAFE regulations didn't include trucks, so we were sold trucks instead of cars. Now people want trucks that look like cars from the inside.
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#197Roughly estimated carbon production of manufacturing (I got these numbers from a german discussion, one source for battery carbon production is: http://www.focus.de/auto/experten/duennes/oekobilanz-von-ele... ): ------------------------------------------ VW Polo GTI: 2 tons BMW M5: 2,5 tons BMW I3: 4 tons Tesla Modell X 13 tons Manufacturing + 100.000km: -------------------------- BMW I3 -> 9,6 tons VW Polo GTI -> 18…
It's not fair to compare the Model X to a Sedan. Do you have numbers for other SUVs? Remember the idea here is that it's assumed you'll be buying a car already. Also, even if the total lifetime carbon was equal, it's still better to buy a vehicle that produces all that carbon in localized places where it could possibly be captured instead of all over crowded urban areas.
I just want to mention some facts. EVs are interesting and the future for sure but thinking EVs are the holy grail is just stupid.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/hold-smugness-tesla-might-...
How do you can capture carbon?
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#198Earlier quoted context omitted.
I believe it's because pumping filtered air from the outside faster than it can escape from the cabin creates the positive internal pressure.
Modern cars have a cabin air outlet. It's usually hidden in the trunk or the back of the cab (on trucks), and vents somewhere like behind the plastic bumper. There are rubber flaps on them to ensure one-way air travel and keep water out. Perhaps Tesla's has a motor on theirs to keep it closed against the increased cabin pressure. From a 2015 Honda Accord, it's #35: http://imgur.com/QsJexwI Side-effect of this part -…
Just by pumping air inside through filters a positive internal pressure is automatically created. How much pressure will be created is proportional to the pump's flow rate and inversely proportional to the car leakage constant ( I think it's something like leakage ~ k * P.I.P., which would make P.I.P. ~ pump flow/k ), but some positive internal pressure is a given even with those outlets.
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Cool thing is, they could actually claim "safe" in a bigger sense of the word that most companies do not. Zero emissions is safer for everyone over the long term. I'd want to see a cradle-to-grave carbon footprint analysis first, though.
Good point. Maybe there's an asterisk in there somewhere stating this claim is predicated on successfully launching used batteries into space and having them crash into a dump on the moon.
Nah, just get them to orbit and then gently nudge them towards the sun. After the cost of getting out of the gravity well, let physics take care of the rest. We will need the moon one day, no point in trashing it beforehand.
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That is pretty amazing pricing. Most premium families would be looking to the Land Rover Evoque ($41K), BMW X5 ($54K) etc But Tesla is pricing it not to compete with the baseline Porsche Cayenne ($58K) but around the Cayenne Turbo S level ($157K). I guess they aren't planning on building a lot of them.
The Land Rover Evoque, BMW X5 and Porsche Cayenne are all 5 person SUVs that aren't in the same class as the Model X (7 person).
The Volvo XC90 has 7 seats.