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“Just remove the duck” (2013)

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Re: “Just remove the duck” (2013)

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He really nailed it with the mouse.

Yep, this thing was beautiful http://cdn.mactrast.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/2012-11-2... Apples design is hit and miss like everyone else.

My carpal tunnels ache just looking at it.

Re: “Just remove the duck” (2013)

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http://theoatmeal.com/comics/design_hell "Could you make the design pop a bit more?"

I think the key line here is: > I also don't know how to design websites based on someone else's feelings. That's what design is, so if you're not doing that then you're probably not a designer.

Not even wrong. Design is defined by making studied choices within the constraints of the need or purpose. Rarely are these emotional, and when they are it is merely because of a successful connection between the people and the ideas that the purpose of the design created. The emotion is a side effect of good design, not the point. Only Marketing people see design as "emotional" because they see the world through a lens of shaping human behavior through our primate genetic programming.

Re: “Just remove the duck” (2013)

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If you haven't read this before, I highly recommend: http://www.27bslash6.com/missy.html

...That guy is just an asshole. Not funny at all. He should just have declined instead of screwing around and wasting everybody's time.

It's possible that he didn't actually do that, and was only blogging the fantasy ("Man, I'd love to troll her with increasingly stupid cat posters until she leaves me alone ..."), but it's also possible that we see the response after being frequently asked to do Free Work as a "favor" for coworkers who either won't accept "No" or don't understand that it's inappropriate to depand such work.

If we take this at face value, she could have asked more nicely, and he could also have followed the "F you, pay me" principle, and just quoted her a figure.

Had he said, "I'd be happy to make you a poster for your cat. I will be able to do it with an hour's work, for which I will bill you $80", he would not have wasted her time, and she could have made something herself in her word processor. (Or, she'd have said, "Awesome, here's eighty bucks".)

Re: “Just remove the duck” (2013)

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This reminds me of some contracting work I did for a company that billed the Federal government. I was told that the final invoices sent to them had some obvious and intentional accounting errors such that these would be "caught", thus satisfying whomever was in charge of approving the invoices on the government's end.

Re: “Just remove the duck” (2013)

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Not a huge Steve Jobs fan, but I had a professor who had worked as a designer under Steve Jobs and tried something similar. Steve insisted that a new mouse needed to be just a fraction of a millimetre slimmer so a person's palm was lower and closer to the work surface. They figured he was being an unreasonable "delicate genius" and returned a few days later with the identical mouse and claimed they had reworked it to…

I think there is a more likely, albeight sadder explanation. Steve was simply able to read the faces of the team and correctly guess that they didn't comply. As a compliance professional he was very sensitive to that and immediately reacted.

Or, a more likely and less idiotically cynical explanation is that a man famous for having vision, aesthetic sense and incessant drive for excellence that enabled him to completely revolutionize multiple technology industries ACTUALLY had vision and a sense of aesthetics.

Re: “Just remove the duck” (2013)

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post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not a huge Steve Jobs fan, but I had a professor who had worked as a designer under Steve Jobs and tried something similar. Steve insisted that a new mouse needed to be just a fraction of a millimetre slimmer so a person's palm was lower and closer to the work surface. They figured he was being an unreasonable "delicate genius" and returned a few days later with the identical mouse and claimed they had reworked it to…

There is a similar story about Larry Page when Gmail was being developed: Before Google launched Gmail in 2004, its creator, Paul Buchheit, brought it to Page’s open cubicle office for a review. As Buchheit called the program up on Page’s computer, the boss made a face. “It’s too slow,” Page said. Buchheit disagreed. It was loading just fine, he said. No, Page insisted. It had taken a full 600 milliseconds for the pa…

Fine story but it has no "remove the duck" element to it.

Re: “Just remove the duck” (2013)

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I think the key line here is: > I also don't know how to design websites based on someone else's feelings. That's what design is, so if you're not doing that then you're probably not a designer.

Not even wrong. Design is defined by making studied choices within the constraints of the need or purpose. Rarely are these emotional, and when they are it is merely because of a successful connection between the people and the ideas that the purpose of the design created. The emotion is a side effect of good design, not the point. Only Marketing people see design as "emotional" because they see the world through a l…

> Only Marketing people see design as "emotional" because they see the world through a lens of shaping human behavior through our primate genetic programming.

The word design literally means 'fate', i.e. the absence of free will. Shaping behavior is the point, making studied choices is only the means to the end.

C.f. Robert Frost's poem Design:

http://www.poets.org/poetsorg/poem/design

Re: “Just remove the duck” (2013)

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post #117

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He really nailed it with the mouse.

There are some people who really love Apple's mice, even the notorious "hockey puck" one. (Which to be fair was actually pretty comfortable to use, assuming you ever got the damn thing pointing the right way.) I'm not one of them, but I'm not really a huge fan of mice, period -- and their current weirdo mouse-with-touch-surface certainly offers a lot of gesture control, and it's not that uncomfortable. (Granted, "The…

The hockey-puck mouse would have been a lot nicer to use had it been wireless. The small, round body didn't provide a good grip for wrestling with that stiff cable.

Re: “Just remove the duck” (2013)

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Putting on my client/product manager hat for a moment, this is incredibly annoying. You are putting me in the position of either (a) fixing the obvious ducks and not looking closely at the real problems, or (b) having to micromanage you and scheduling another review to make further changes. Maybe you get your desired result (a), but my opinion of your work is going to be much lower since you are making obvious duck-s…

I think the fact that you started off with the assumption that the PM is competent illustrates the inherent entitlement problem with a lot of PMs in the software industry. Yes, PMs are highly important roles when done right. Companies who imitate companies that are successful (and who hires great people) picks up the PM role without picking up the culture of building good products or the hiring practices ends up with PMs who think they're competent and superior by association with the role they're in and that their opinion about who is competent is relevant.
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