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Re: My Ideas, My Boss’s Property

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Maybe don't sign these types of contracts? We are fortunate enough that even the most mediocre among us can hold out for the next employer that doesn't demand this kind of control over you, or start your own company. I don't give a shit what a company says about their culture of work/life balance or whatever. If I see blanket IP clauses unrelated to non-compete, or like arbitration clauses that remove us from civil c…

I basically did whistle my way out the door because of this. I worked as a contractor for a very large defense company. After a year, they offered me full time employment. I specifically asked if there was a "we own everything you make" clause in the employment agreement, but I was assured there was not. I went through about five digital form contracts, and when I got to the last one, it had the clause in there. I to…

This is why I always say get it in writing. If it's not written, it doesn't really exist.

Re: My Ideas, My Boss’s Property

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Actualy the courts would strike that down is not justicable its not realted to your day job at all.

in many cases that is true. after you have gone bankrupt in lawyer fees

I think in such an edge case with such wildly divergent fields you could represent yourself - though if they are going afer you for a book you wrote it's likely you are published author and publishers have lawyers too.

Where it gets trickier is if you work as a devloper and they go after waht you have done in the evenings

Re: My Ideas, My Boss’s Property

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I can't really believe this - if both parties agreed an alternate contract was made orally then the court would effectively rule against both parties in favour of supporting a knowingly false contract? FWIW the Wikipedia definition, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_corners_%28law%29 , contrasts sharply with your use and doesn't really seem to speak at all to overwriting of terms by further contracts.

Ah but in practice, they won't agree. One aide will be motivated to claim the oral contract did not exist.

Yes, but that's not what was claimed. Of course if it can't be established that there was any further [alteration of the] contract then the written contract will be relied on. But that doesn't really seem to be the heart of what the Four Corners doctrine is about.

Re: My Ideas, My Boss’s Property

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post #162

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Implying of course that the "other" talent, you know, not the top kind, you can employ and own all you want?

Most people (85%) don't mind subordinate roles as long as they're generally treated decently. They don't have ambitious career goals or strong opinions on what they should be doing with their time. I'm not saying that such people should be "owned". That's pretty reprehensible. I'm saying that they don't require an amount of autonomy incompatible with the standard employment context.

Wow, that is insulting to pretty much every working person. Seriously, fuck you and your bigotry.

Re: My Ideas, My Boss’s Property

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post #116

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IANAL, you sort of can, but mainly in compensation for expenses you incurred based on expecting them to come through. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estoppel#American_law

So if someone offers you a job and you quit your previous job, only to find out your new job is no longer on the table, then you can sue for lost wages?

Let's just say that it's possible-enough that you should ask a real lawyer about what they think :p
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