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I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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Post by roc »

jessedhillon wrote: post #171
roc wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given the most core of the criticisms of hipsterism are its judgementalism and superiority complex, your argument seems to be tantamount to decrying the bullying of bullies, or the lack of tolerance for the intolerant.

Is that really the core criticism of hipsterdom? I hear much more often the appropriation of poor/outsider chic and concordance devaluation of intrinsic meaning. Consider the kiffeyeh (plaid arabesque scarf) worn originally to signal solidarity with Palestinians. Now the overriding significance of it, when you see it worn (it's a little dated now) is that of an empty fashion trend. Another common critique I hear is t…

> "Is that really the core criticism of hipsterdom?"

How would a hipster caricature respond to the kiffeyeh becoming an empty fashion trend?

"I wore it before it was cool" i.e. I was better/smarter/above simple fashion herding.

So, yeah. I think that's the over-riding common thread linking the various branches and spectra of hipsterdom and the one thing that's almost universally criticized wherever hipsters are being discussed.

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Post by darylgab »

Yhippa wrote: post #140

> I often wear tight jeans, big plastic-frame glasses, shirts bought at thrift stores. ... and then later ... > And that my wardrobe was more a function of my budget than hipster assimilation. To me his style comes off as hipster assimilation. Am I missing something?

You can get jeans for $30, glasses for $50, and shirts for $10, at Costco. If this guy's concern is really about a budget, he is bad at budgeting.

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Post by smsm42 »

at-fates-hands wrote: post #25

This was the best line for me during the argument between two Redditors: "you do realize things have value even if they're not digitized, right" Brilliant point and something that is sadly being lost in our evolving digital community. As a former Anthropologist, we are leaving less and less artifacts for those future civilizations to discover us by. At times, it's incredibly depressing to me this is the case. How wil…

That may be both curse and blessing. I wouldn't want future civilizations to think of me basing on comments on Youtube and Reddit. I have faith the things of actual worth will persist. There's not a lot of them, but that's always so. See Sturgeon's law.

Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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Post by NovemberWest »

JeremyMorgan wrote: post #178

Why do people care so much about how other people dress?

There are quite a lot of reasons. But I imagine you were being rhetorical and do not want to discuss pecking order and a lot of other social stuff. :-)

But have an upvote.

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Post by [deleted] »

kyro wrote: post #30

If everyone's public, online comments were tied to their real, physical identity, would the internet on a whole be a more pleasant place? I don't see the type of vitriolic comment threads on Facebook that I see on Reddit. What would be the long term implications of that? Is online anonymity in a public forum a right that we have?

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Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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Post by drcode »

TomGullen wrote: post #163

I keep saying it, taking photos of random people out in public not hurting anyone for the intention of posting online and ridicule is one of the most vulgar, inconsiderate modern phenomenons that seems to be socially acceptable. Its the ugly, non creative side of accessibility in modern technology that hurts people sometimes significantly. If someone did it to me, I would probably be very hurt. "Look at this super ug…

He wasn't "random people", he was a guy doing a piece of performance art for attention.

Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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Post by mrgreenfur »

EvanKelly wrote: post #164
Dylan16807 wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If they actually enjoy what they're doing, and not the feeling of being 'counterculture', then they're not being "hipsters". It's pretty simple.

What's wrong with enjoying the feeling of being counterculture? This whole anti-hipster sentiment is so bizarre to me. It's all about policing other peoples' fashion/taste/activities without reason. The idea that hipsters are somehow not genuine doesn't make any sense. What is there to be genuine to ? If you use an old film camera because you like the photos it takes and are fascinated by how it operates, more power…

I like this response. I'm not sure that I'm mentally mature enough to actually sustain it, but I like it the best. Let people do whatever they like and don't bother judging or grouping them too much.

Edit: fixed broken english.

Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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Post by jamesaguilar »

agentultra wrote: post #94
potatolicious wrote: post #7

Hipster-hate strikes me as just another thinly veiled form of bullying, and it's interesting to see how readily internet nerds - the people who are disproportionately to have been bullied in the past - engage in it. Look! He's different! Let's make assumptions about his motivations and get him! It's also interesting to see how many times Reddit (and other communities) fly into a rage-fest because of lack of context,…

This is going to sound inflammatory but I basically consider anyone younger than around 25 to be functionally insane . They're in a period in their life where they seriously believe that they cannot spend the rest of their lives with someone who doesn't have the same taste in music as they do. You're busy cultivating a sense of identity, I get it. But more often than not you grow up and find yourself in love with som…

On the other hand, I have noticed that people over thirty are willing to label people under twenty-five as functionally insane, which strikes me as a bit of an internal contradiction in your post.

Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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Post by veemjeem »

darylgab wrote: post #182
Yhippa wrote: post #140

> I often wear tight jeans, big plastic-frame glasses, shirts bought at thrift stores. ... and then later ... > And that my wardrobe was more a function of my budget than hipster assimilation. To me his style comes off as hipster assimilation. Am I missing something?

You can get jeans for $30, glasses for $50, and shirts for $10, at Costco. If this guy's concern is really about a budget, he is bad at budgeting.

To be fair, Costco is definitely not the cheapest place to buy clothing. Plus the author lives in NYC which probably doesn't have that many large Costco facilities near subway.
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