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Post by moubarak »

tehwalrus wrote: post #151
moubarak wrote: post #103

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you had no reason to offend another religion. you take religion lightly. you should be educated on other cultures. it is not smart to see people dying for their religion all around the world, and then go around offending them claiming that it is your digital right. that is extremely apathetic. im against you being jailed, but i am with you being outcast from society until you appreciate other people's cultures. You d…

I appreciate plenty of cultures, indeed I've tried to learn languages to better understand them, but I'm sure that doesn't mean I have to agree with them. Assuming I have some criticisms of the application of Islamic laws, why must I ask your permission to express them, and to hold political opinions in general? I'm sure that some of my opinions would be held offensive by someone, does that mean I have "offended a re…

if you merely criticized religious laws, then i apologize and take back all what i said and believe the you have been not rightly convicted. if you have been convicted however because you insulted that religion (insensitive photograph, your words nit mine) then you should be outcast like a drunk bee.

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Post by 300bps »

shubb wrote: post #157
davidcollantes wrote: post #148

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I disagree. I say run, leave that country. I once did the same. Why would he like to live in a country governed by religion to the point that a secular photo gets you to jail? Run, start your life somewhere else. That is my advise.

A lot of countries have dogmatic laws many people in them disagree with. For instance, in the US, you can go to jail for selling cannabis, and a lot of people disagree with that. If an American friend told you he was about to go to jail for a year for selling drugs, and you felt it was unfair, would you tell him to flee? As such, you can comply with unfair laws, or not and take the consequences, or go somewhere with…

If an American friend told you he was about to go to jail for a year for selling drugs

OP and his girlfriend face 8 years in jail for posting a picture of themselves eating pork on Facebook.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/07/18/sex-bloggers-coul...

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Post by alinajaf »

moubarak wrote: post #159
alinajaf wrote: post #126

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I am a secular humanist. As part of my faith, I believe that human beings have an inalienable right to freedom of speech without fear of persecution. I find your advocation of outcasting from society those who say things that you find offensive as offensive as you would find a Quran being flushed down a toilet. There's the door.

the Quran is nothing but paper. flushing it down the toilet however is not like flushing a piece of paper. flushing a holy book down the toilet is a message of enmity. why do you speak so illogically.

So you've offended my religion. Should you be outcast or not? Try to stay focused here, it's not hard.

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Post by moubarak »

tluyben2 wrote: post #175
moubarak wrote: post #114

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how did i insult you? i'd like to know before outcasting myself.

You insulted me as well; I actually got slightly annoyed reading your outcasting post. Something which rarely happens to me on HN. You should respect each other's religion as long as this religion doesn't interfere with the basic structure and functioning of society. Now you were talking generally, not Malaysian only, which means that your 'rules' interfere with my freedom of speech (which is normal in my society) an…

you know nothing about those religions, because non of them promote jail. they all outcast the criminals. please dont have strong opinions about something you know nothing about.

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Post by outworlder »

csomar wrote: post #96
DanBC wrote: post #58

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You don't need a passport to leave a country. You need a passport to get into a country. People who enter a country illegally and then claim asylum status are unlikely to be in any position to keep their business running.

How hard is it to get a fake-passport and sneak through the airport?

Irrelevant.

Even if it were easy as a pie, OP is worried about being convicted of a 'crime' which is not considered a crime in most of the developed world. So, he has a chance of being granted asylum.

Faking a passport, however, IS a very serious crime and it would be something ridiculously stupid to do.

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Post by fnordfnordfnord »

moubarak wrote: post #114
icebraining wrote: post #105

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I find your post offensive. Please outcast yourself.

how did i insult you? i'd like to know before outcasting myself.

I personally find deeply offensive any religion whose followers' responses to insults are violence, or threats of violence.

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Post by 300bps »

cromulent wrote: post #90
hackerboos wrote: post #66

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Cartoons I think we are referring to.

"Religiously-insensitive photographs" the OP said. If The Onion didn't get in trouble for this one, then the US is safe. Cartoon, not safe for work. http://www.theonion.com/articles/no-one-murdered-because-of-...

^ NSFW ^

(sorry, used to seeing NSFW, not "not safe for work" so clicked on it before I realized)

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Post by hearty777 »

jacquesm wrote: post #104
3a0e8ff4e557 wrote: post #83

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I have a decent lawyer. It isn't hard to keep alive; heck, I've been running it pretty half-assed for the past almost 2 years. Still, I cannot abandon it totally. Also, I don't think it makes enough revenue to warrant hiring anyone to take care of it, I think. I'd make a loss. And since familiarising with the current code base etc. may require a lot of effort, way more effort than anyone would care to dedicate, unles…

What's the platform? What is your (honest) estimate of the code quality / time to familiarize? What about those bugs, are they things that you could conceivably still do before you go to jail? Would it be acceptable if they were there as long as you were gone? (after all, they are there right now). You're in Singapore? How do you intend to deal with the financial side of this? (I take it there is a small business to…

Singapore is 100% not a Muslim country. He's probably in Malaysia from the looks of it.

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Post by outworlder »

moubarak wrote: post #103
jacquesm wrote: post #80

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Right, because offending a religion is reason enough to become an outcast. What is this, the digital dark ages? Religion should be a force to unite people in something positive, not a way for a bunch of sub-groups to tell others how to live their lives. Offense is in the eye of the beholder, what offends me is that there are people that would jail others based on insulting religions. And I say that as an atheist, my…

you had no reason to offend another religion. you take religion lightly. you should be educated on other cultures. it is not smart to see people dying for their religion all around the world, and then go around offending them claiming that it is your digital right. that is extremely apathetic. im against you being jailed, but i am with you being outcast from society until you appreciate other people's cultures. You d…

'Religion' cannot be offended. People can.

And if they are so easily offended, this is not OP's fault.

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