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At Google Conference, Cameras Even in the Bathroom

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Re: At Google Conference, Cameras Even in the Bathroom

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Post by ISL »

hkmurakami wrote: post #41
kaolinite wrote: post #40

In Japan and some other countries, there is a law requiring cameras to make loud noises so pictures cannot be taken discreetly. I wonder if this will apply to Glass and, if so, what Google will do to enable Glass to be sold in Japan. Is there even an external speaker with which they could make the noise? ( http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/32442/jurisdictio... )

I travelled to Japan in February and noticed that my Nexus 4 suddenly started to make shutter sounds when I snapped photos there, after I connected to my friend's wifi hotspot. Something similar will be implemented in Glass for sure. Of course, there are many workarounds around this, including separate camera applications.

Anyone know how this might be implemented in Android? Seems like cruft in the code for most users.

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Post by tptacek »

freehunter wrote: post #106
potatolicious wrote: post #25

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So... "where you come from" what is the bar at which felony assault is justified?

Well felony assault consists of intentionally causing severe bodily harm to someone or attacking an elderly person or child. A single blow to the face would generally not be felony assault. However, I would consider cornering me in a bathroom and sexually harassing me to be just cause for self defense.

A quick Google search for "felony assault for punching" suggests your comment might be inaccurate.

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Post by Mz »

freehunter wrote: post #106
potatolicious wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So... "where you come from" what is the bar at which felony assault is justified?

Well felony assault consists of intentionally causing severe bodily harm to someone or attacking an elderly person or child. A single blow to the face would generally not be felony assault. However, I would consider cornering me in a bathroom and sexually harassing me to be just cause for self defense.

Without having to google, I can tell you that at what point something gets defined as a "felony" varies from one state to another.

(I used to pay accident claims. Some policies specifically did not cover injuries that were incurred in the commission of a felony. I had to write a denial based on that clause. We first had to research if the event in qhestion was a felony in the state in question.)

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Post by freehunter »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #151
freehunter wrote: post #93

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Listen to yourself, man! If someone peeked their head under a stall, would it be disproportionate violence to push him back out with your foot? Seriously, sexual harassment is not a light crime. It does serious damage to the victim's mental state. There's no way of knowing if the perpetrator is going to take things further. If you want to state here right now that you feel that violence as a way to stop an ongoing ac…

Pushing them away seems reasonable. Punching them in the face both escalates and doesn't actually get them further away from you. And if you are seriously worried about someone solely because of peeking then you need to learn how to handle that worry.

You wouldn't reel back if I punched you in the face? You're man enough to shrug it off without so much as flinching? The idea is to get you to take a step back and pause so I can walk away.

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Post by yardie »

zemanel wrote: post #177
megablast wrote: post #139

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Maybe it is a sign of us all getting old, when everybody else adopts google glasses. They say old age is when you stop wanting to learn new things. (Well, somebody said that)

i do not believe it's a sign of anyone getting old or stopping new things, just that i think general social responsibility hasn't been catching up with emerging technologies and Googlers / early adopters could do well in publicly setting civil conduct examples, like taking the Glasses off when going to a public restroom, because people on the other end of recording devices have rights too in public spaces, if not leg…

I will never understand why people yell into the phone on the metro. It's loud and talking louder doesn't, magically, reconnect the call.

I wouldn't call this a new trend. You have a number of youths in close proximity and 2 ear cups. It makes sense to use the speaker when more than 2 people want to hear. I used to do the same when I was young and mixtapes came on tape. Now, some idiot sitting alone and singing along I find annoying.

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Post by DanBC »

betterunix wrote: post #167
DanBC wrote: post #42

Creepers have been creeping for years and years and years. They peer through curtains; they make spyholes in cubicle walls, and with digital cameras they hide cameras in ceilings and books and showers and shoes. Voyeuristic porn is a category. Upskirt is word popular enough to have an understood meaning. I'm a bloke. I'm not worried by those creepers. But I am uneasy about some users of Google Glass. I'd be really un…

"I'd be really uncomfortable if I was standing at a urinal and someone was next to me still wearing Google Glass." What if that person is deaf, and Glass is doing speech-to-text for them, helping them get through their day? What if they are a foreigner, and Glass is translating signs, instructions, and spoken language for them? There are a lot of good uses for Google Glass that should not be ignored just because it h…

I'd still feel uncomfortable.

I'm not saying glass is evil and everyone using it is evil at all times.

I'm expressing mild dis-comfort.

Some people experience 'bladder-lock' when standing at a urinal if there's someone next to them. I predict Google Glass is going to cause more cases of bladder-lock.

I'd feel the same level of discomfort if I was at a urinal and someone was standing next to me holding their smartphone, even if it wasn't pointed at me.

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Post by Dylan16807 »

freehunter wrote: post #184
Dylan16807 wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pushing them away seems reasonable. Punching them in the face both escalates and doesn't actually get them further away from you. And if you are seriously worried about someone solely because of peeking then you need to learn how to handle that worry.

You wouldn't reel back if I punched you in the face? You're man enough to shrug it off without so much as flinching? The idea is to get you to take a step back and pause so I can walk away.

I'd flinch and stumble in some direction, it might or might not be away.

There's a good chance I'd fall on you.

Re: At Google Conference, Cameras Even in the Bathroom

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Post by Filligree »

Nrsolis wrote: post #178
Filligree wrote: post #149

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Would there, in fact, be as much harm in crossing it? What I mean is.. if societal norms change such that, say, nude photos are no longer considered important - because everyone has nude photos online, after all - is it still as much of a problem? Most of the psychological issues here are highly cultural.

Maybe for you. But I don't think that someone else should have that power over me. Once you start allowing that barrier to be crossed, you're inviting all sorts of other incursions on what we consider to be personal liberties.

And once again, the new generation turns out to be perverted and immoral. :-)

You're welcome to object, but the consensus of society will likely shift. Perhaps not to where I suggested; I'm not much of a prophet.

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