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I wonder if you can upgrade to the 60kwh battery while driving. "You need to recharge now. Or click here to unlock the rest of your battery." I bet most ppl will upgrade. ;)
ICP - In Car Purchase. Next Step: Freemium cars!
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At least a sizable chunk of which is going into the pockets of wealthy Google engineers, if what's to be read in this thread is true. Well, I guess they're paying the taxes in the first place...
If it successfully brings electric cars into the main stream it will be the most efficient use of $7,500 the government ever paid.
Though it won't be the least efficient, it'll be right down there. (Subsidizing and "protecting" steelmakers and automakers in the past pretty much doomed those industries to stop being innovative or competitive on the world market.)
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"If a typical electric car is driven 50,000 miles over its lifetime ..." Is this guy serious? The average car is driven 13.5k miles/year. So 50k is 3.7 years. Why would anyone use a ridiculously low number unless they were just trying to prove a point they already made up their mind on?
"The average car on the road is about 11 years old, and the average car is driven about 15,000 miles per year. Multiply those figures together and you’ve got a fairly average car with something like 165,000 miles on it" http://business.time.com/2012/03/20/what-you-only-have-100k-... And that's AVERAGE of cars still being driven
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If it successfully brings electric cars into the main stream it will be the most efficient use of $7,500 the government ever paid.
How can you be sure? A bunch of rich Valley workers getting $10,000 rebates on luxury cars is the "most" efficient use of tax money? (barney54 was right: There's another $2,500 free from California.) I know you're exaggerating for effect, but when has such a scheme ever worked to bring a new technology mainstream? The government didn't need to give you a tax credit to buy a PC. I suspect it would be much more efficie…
Maybe, but you are comparing "it would be better to do this optimal thing which hasn't actually happened and may be politically hard to make happen" to "this thing that actually did happen was worthwhile". Both can be true.
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They're becoming really popular in Norway too, in large part because of how incredibly cheap it is compared to the equivalent gasoline/diesel cars. In the US the Model S is a quite expensive car, but here in Norway the taxes on gasoline/diesel cars are so high that the Model S actually is really cheap for its class. In the US the Model S have often been compared to the BMW M5, but in Norway the BMW costs 3x what the…
Have Tesla deliveries to Norway started? Have you seen a Model S in Oslo yet?
http://www.teslamotors.com/fr_FR/about/press/releases/tesla-...
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IIRC the SX's were DX's with a manufacturing defect in the FPU. To increase overall yield of 486 family processors, intel would disable the inoperative FPU by cutting traces with a laser and sell the otherwise perfectly fine chip as an SX. I think, even if you had some kind of super powers that let you reconnect those traces, you still wouldn't have a fully functional DX, unless you also used those super powers to fi…
This was never really verified. I'm sure after the 486s were fabbed for a while, intel's defect rate got low enough that they started turning good ones into SX's. By the time the P5 came along, they stopped playing these games all together and started rating by clock speed alone.
Weren't the original Celerons P-II chips with half the L2 cache disabled or something? I also seem to remember they were arbitrarily limited to uni-processor functionality, and some modders found you could drill a portion of the chip to make them work on dual and quad CPU mainboards.
If that's correct, I think it's overly generous to say they stopped playing these games (although maybe they took a small break).
> The customers who ordered this option will instead receive the 60 kWh pack, but range will be software limited to 40 kWh. can't see anybody hacking that.
If I need to take a long road trip, I will rent a car. The 2013 Nissan Leaf is the second cheapest car in America after five years of ownership and it has a great feature set that similar price point cars lack.
If a Tesla owner needs to rent a car for a road trip off the beaten path, she can likely afford it. If a Nissan Leaf owner needs to rent a car, he's saving enough money on his purchase to rent a car several times per year and still pay less than someone who bought a similarly-equipped, new car.
Rising gas prices will only improve the buying thesis for electric cars. The Bakken reserves are gushing oil yet prices on the world market have only increased.
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I wonder how many of the actual customers are as disturbed by this as you.
They should be. What is the point of supporting and paying a premium for green, if you are going to carry dead weight around in the car? Given that we are told that carrying a spare wheel around is significant, unused battery capacity must also be a problem. I also assume tesla went to some trouble to reduce the weight of the car too. With makes unused battery capacity even more nuts. If you are going green, you do n…
So yeah, I can't say I see what the giant fuss is about, and for the record, you may see everyone here as Musk "lovers" incapable of seeing his selfishness and wastefulness (i think?), while some would say you seem a Musk "hater" incapable of letting reason invade your opinion of the man. But you know, to each his own.
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> The customers who ordered this option will instead receive the 60 kWh pack, but range will be software limited to 40 kWh. can't see anybody hacking that.
All of this complaining about the difference between 40 kWh and 60 kWh ignores the fact that most people rarely take trips of that length anyway. I've always had to explain this to people who do not understand why range anxiety is not very important. If I need to take a long road trip, I will rent a car. The 2013 Nissan Leaf is the second cheapest car in America after five years of ownership and it has a great featur…
"Tesla Motors announced today that sales of its Model S vehicle exceeded the target provided in the mid-February shareholder letter" - So that means they had a great last 6 weeks of the quarter. That means sales actually went up substantially after the NY Times huff foo. That means it made tremendous sense to continually go after the NY Times as it must have been apparent sales were rising on a week over week basis s…
Tesla has a backlog of about 15000 vehicles, and it will take them all of 2013 to produce those cars.
You can reserve one, but the actual sale will not happen until the car has been manufactured. The backlog dates back to before the NYT article, so you cannot determine the effect of the NYT article based on the sales numbers of this press release.
You may be able to see the effect of the NYT article in the number of new reservations Tesla has received this quarter (when it is disclosed), but there are also positive effects that play in; The "Car of 2012" award last year, and the "Green car of 2013" award last week. Those could affect sales positively.
There are also plenty of positive reviews, so a single bad review would probably not have that significant an effect on the sales.