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The coolest use for the Vision Pro

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Re: The coolest use for the Vision Pro

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Post by jondiggsit »

jasonfarnon wrote: post #161
jondiggsit wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely both. Internally, we'll model something, move an element, etc., and we're able to evaluate the idea until it feels right. For clients, I don't know any other way at this point. Showing a novice a 2D elevation does nothing for them. They will nod, make comments, and play along, but until you sketch a person into the drawing, they don't even understand that the front door is ten feet tall.

"I don't know any other way at this point. Showing a novice a 2D elevation" I think 2D prints aren't the baseline, and since at least the late 2000s even run of the mill architecture firms have been using 3d studio-type renderings with clients. Maybe I don't understand how the visionpro works. Your clients arent actually physically moving their body, right? What's the advantage of looking around the space in a vision…

Really? Who? I've worked with two dozen AD100 Architecture firms. Most will farm out a couple static renders that will never again be updated throughout the evolution of the project.

Yes, they can move around if they want. We set a boundary in the foyer of my office, so they have about 15 feet of movement.

If you haven't ever put on a 3D headset, it's hard to describe the advantage. Do I think it's 100% necessary vs. just looking at a screen, no, but it's cool.

Re: The coolest use for the Vision Pro

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Post by jondiggsit »

lysace wrote: post #144
jondiggsit wrote: post #68

My team uses this technology on a daily basis at my company. I run a design / build firm in the Hamptons, USA. We start all of our design projects with a 3d-first approach. Schematic design starts in 3D using Rhino3D or Revit. We use visualization plugins, like Enscape, to render the models and stream to a Quest 3 headset. So when clients come in, and feels adventurous, we'll setup the headset, set the display height…

Wait, you actually have an empty building/area the size of a typical custom design home? Aren't those typically rather huge? Do you partition the previews?

The Quest has joysticks to control your position. We managed to get one of our 70 year old clients to figure it out.

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Post by JSR_FDED »

bigiain wrote: post #127
luciana1u wrote: post #122

the irony is that the most practical use case for a ,500 headset is something a 00 Quest does just as well, but you'd never think to try it on the Quest because nobody told you it was a productivity device

Your legless manager in the daily Workrooms stand^h^h^h^h^floatup glares at you.

Because he’s still in a bad mood from losing his Nintendo Wii tennis game.

Re: The coolest use for the Vision Pro

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Post by jondiggsit »

SirHackalot wrote: post #148
jondiggsit wrote: post #68

My team uses this technology on a daily basis at my company. I run a design / build firm in the Hamptons, USA. We start all of our design projects with a 3d-first approach. Schematic design starts in 3D using Rhino3D or Revit. We use visualization plugins, like Enscape, to render the models and stream to a Quest 3 headset. So when clients come in, and feels adventurous, we'll setup the headset, set the display height…

This comment almost made me quit my job and pursue my original passion in architecture. So the job was, all along, as fun as I imagined it… And the full-stack knowledge to make it happen is still rare? I am currently designing my house in Blender and was planning to import it into Unreal Engine to make it navigable. HN has a way of serving me the content I’m looking for at the right time…

I love hearing statements like this.

I want to learn how to import into Unreal Engine... also throw a rocket launcher in there with some destruction physics.

I will caution tho, converting the Rhino models back into CAD for construction drawings, etc. is time consuming. One of my architects is skilled in Revit, but we haven't explored the real time rendering / 3d visualization abilities enough with it.

Re: The coolest use for the Vision Pro

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

I would put down $3k-$4k for a device that guided me into doing my own renovation/home improvements. Like, I want to take down my cabinets and install a stove vent and then put them up again, or install a solid surface bottom for my shower. Trades people are super expensive right now, and much of the knowledge you could somehow be walked through with AR. Of course there is still dexterity and muscle memory, so maybe it wouldn’t work out well, and then there is heavy lifting.

Re: The coolest use for the Vision Pro

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Post by ChuckMcM »

JSR_FDED wrote: post #180
ChuckMcM wrote: post #79

3D walkthroughs are absolutely the OG[1] use for head mounted displays. I had an interesting experience of a realtor who had a couple of Vision pro headsets that they would let you use to tour properties they had for sale. Definitely faster and easier than driving around only to find you could quickly eliminate a choice. I am not sure what sort of workflow they used to capture the 3D space but I do know they had a Ma…

VRML, now that’s been a while. If I recall correctly it was only a changed header from the Silicon Graphics Open Inventor format.

Yeah pretty much. Was the future though, amirite?

Re: The coolest use for the Vision Pro

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Post by jondiggsit »

seemaze wrote: post #165
jondiggsit wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely both. Internally, we'll model something, move an element, etc., and we're able to evaluate the idea until it feels right. For clients, I don't know any other way at this point. Showing a novice a 2D elevation does nothing for them. They will nod, make comments, and play along, but until you sketch a person into the drawing, they don't even understand that the front door is ten feet tall.

Are there any productive tools or workflows you employ for modeling directly in VR? Or is it more useful for review and evaluation of models developed on traditional workstations? I'm AEC adjacent and am trying to talk myself into picking up a pair strictly for personal architectural projects..

We really only use it for architectural intent. There is a dream that is BIM on residential projects, but unless the project has an extreme level of technical constrains, it's often cost prohibitive to model EVERYTHING. I'm really hoping that AI assisted design tools will bridge the gap. Imagine uploading architectural and structural drawings and AI correctly modeling HVAC duct size, mechanical room requirements for pumps, boilers, etc., modeling electrical chases, vent pipes, exhaust ducts, ERVs, etc., in a local code compliant manner. I know it's coming and I can't freaking wait.

We have on occasion used our Matterport 3 lidar scanner to model existing structural conditions to help us figure out a problem.

Re Matterport 3 - we use it as a communication tool for remote work sessions with engineers, architects, clients, etc. Saves everyone a trip to the site. Helps us document progress, preserve historical details, uncover discrepancies between field and plan, etc.

Re: The coolest use for the Vision Pro

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Post by JSR_FDED »

I can’t wait for a future where we go into a showroom, use immersive VR to design the house layout, pick materials in the showroom and have the house show up a few weeks later as a prefab kit for a local contractor to put together.
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