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AI-generated videos to maximally drive a target brain region

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Re: AI-generated videos to maximally drive a target brain region

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Post by inigyou »

lloydatkinson wrote: post #101
aubanel wrote: post #78

This is the absolutely horrific next stage for social media platforms: - They're already well able to surface the most addictive short video for a specific user out of millions of real videos. - But these millions of real videos are just darts thrown into the space of "videos that could hook the user", in the end even the best-selected of them is not perfect. - Now, behold! AI allows to generate the perfect video to…

There's actual real people working on this bullshit. Horrifying doesn't even come close.

They have information barriers to keep the non-sociopaths from understanding the horror they're working on. Military forces do the same thing. Even the German train drivers didn't know what kind of facilities their trains were going to or why.

Re: AI-generated videos to maximally drive a target brain region

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Post by inigyou »

card_zero wrote: post #94
customguy wrote: post #64

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What is a "purpose"? Something people wish something would only be used for, right? How does it relate to, what influence does it have on what something will end up being used for?

> The synthesized clips line up with what each region is known to care about, faces for FFA, places for PPA, bodies for EBA, motion for MT, patterns for V1 / V3A, and lively social scenes for pSTS / aSTS (STS seems to be https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superior_temporal_sulcus in the temporal lobe, so I guess it's the "I sense a presence" region.) Explain the potential to exploit strong stimulation of specific visual r…

Apply the same technology several layers deeper. Stimulate the novelty or sexual attraction or general reward neurons. Stimulate the thirst center in a Pepsi ad.

Re: AI-generated videos to maximally drive a target brain region

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Post by sajithdilshan »

aubanel wrote: post #78

This is the absolutely horrific next stage for social media platforms: - They're already well able to surface the most addictive short video for a specific user out of millions of real videos. - But these millions of real videos are just darts thrown into the space of "videos that could hook the user", in the end even the best-selected of them is not perfect. - Now, behold! AI allows to generate the perfect video to…

there's not gonna be a regulation and even if there is, the damage would already be done. If you want to protect yourself, then best thing is to just delete the account and apps.

Re: AI-generated videos to maximally drive a target brain region

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Post by inigyou »

hahajk wrote: post #105
da_grift_shift wrote: post #52

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>Expose brain to something, record it somehow, see if brains reaction in the recording helps you understand more about who we are and what cognition is. It also helps companies like Moonbug Entertainment (Candle Media) understand how to build better Distractatrons. It’s a small TV screen, placed a few feet from the larger one, that plays a continuous loop of banal, real-world scenes — a guy pouring a cup of coffee, s…

Sounds like they took a cue from Sesame Street: > p8: "A child watching television under normal conditions is subject to frequent interruptions and distractions. The TV must vie for his attention. In order to simulate this condition, we decided to program distractions into the laboratory situation... Slides could be used to fill the slide tray and they could be projected automatically, at regular intervals, onto a sc…

And nowadays we think of Sesame Street as wholesome compared to today's content. They may have optimised attention but they were delivering positive-value content. That's not the case any more.

Re: AI-generated videos to maximally drive a target brain region

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Post by moshun »

bpavuk wrote: post #169
actionfromafar wrote: post #128

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Social media is also AI now, so I don't really see the difference.

depends. I, for one, take control of what I consume on social media. Bluesky's design allows this. YouTube also, if you turn off recommendations, lose watch history, and vet your subscriptions

What makes you think they’d restrict this to logged in accounts? Not so long ago, Meta got caught building “ghost” social media profiles for people who didn’t have accounts on their platforms. They essentially constructed a “missing puzzle piece” based on people this person knew who did have profiles in publicly available information. Building a psychosocial profile on a user who has not set up an account yet using AI would be trivial.

Re: AI-generated videos to maximally drive a target brain region

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Post by NoGravitas »

bcjdjsndon wrote: post #114
barrenko wrote: post #79

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We are doing to our brains and our children the same thing we are doing to pigs in cages, squezeeing every last cent until the planet burns down.

> until the planet burns down. Common misconception. We won't kill the planet even if we tried to. Wed make it too hard to sustain billions of humans, sure. But they are very different things

Sure, and the planet survived the Permian-Triassic extinction event. Cold comfort to 70% of the terrestrial vertebrate species at the time.

Re: AI-generated videos to maximally drive a target brain region

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Post by NoGravitas »

inigyou wrote: post #179
malfist wrote: post #158

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You say that, but run away greenhouse gases can sterilize the entire planet, like Venus.

Fortunately that particular extreme scenario doesn't seem likely. Radiance scales with the fourth power of temperature, and we're not filling the atmosphere with Venus levels of sulfuric acid. Our CO2 output will be self-limiting when it kills us and we stop outputting it.

Sure, it will "only" look like another one of the Big Five extinction events.

Re: AI-generated videos to maximally drive a target brain region

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Post by inigyou »

NoGravitas wrote: post #187
inigyou wrote: post #179

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Fortunately that particular extreme scenario doesn't seem likely. Radiance scales with the fourth power of temperature, and we're not filling the atmosphere with Venus levels of sulfuric acid. Our CO2 output will be self-limiting when it kills us and we stop outputting it.

Sure, it will "only" look like another one of the Big Five extinction events.

We've already caused one of those and it's ongoing. Wiping ourselves out would actually end it.

Re: AI-generated videos to maximally drive a target brain region

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Post by NoGravitas »

jerlendds wrote: post #165

The sci-fi hand wringing is embarrassing. A huge chunk of the population is afflicted with mental health issues and the best psychitrists can seem to do is "Oh bro, wanna try some ketamine? Anti-psychotics?? Maybe some SSRIs, how about psychdelics?!" - this is a joke. Im all for more neuroscience research in every form because our contemporary understanding is embarassingly poor. This is a research tool for understan…

In a society that wasn't visibly hell-bent on monetizing every discovery in a cartoonishly evil way, I'd probably agree with you.

Re: AI-generated videos to maximally drive a target brain region

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Post by NoGravitas »

br121 wrote: post #98
sph wrote: post #74

Fuck this and whoever is driving this type of research. We’re increasingly living in a world designed by sociopaths. What do these people think this research will be used for? I wish we had the Hippocratic oath for STEM, or at least that they would take ethics seriously rather than an afterthought against the god of Progress at all costs.

There are ethical use cases for this research. The first that comes to mind is mapping the brain before a surgery. Right now some surgeries are made with the patient concious to verify that relevant brain damages are not being done. Having a deeper knowledge of the patient's brain before the surgery may decrease risks further. The bad scenario (using targeted content to hook the user to a screen) already exists, it's…

> There are ethical use cases for this research.

Of course there are. Given what you know about the society we live in, do you think those will be the primary use cases that will be pursued?

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