Jolla Phone (October 2026)

Post by Andromxda » Sat, Jun 27, 2026, 11:58 AM UTC

mrbn100ful wrote: post #24

Tiberium wrote: post #14

Wanted to mention that Sailfish has a lot of closed-source components, especially UI-related, despite the overall marketing/"vibe" making it look very open. If anything, AOSP (Android) is more open than Sailfish. I don't think this has changed with Sailfish 5, see e.g.: - https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/sailfish-os-clarifying-claims... - https://docs.sailfishos.org/Develop/Open_Source/

They are (slowly) releasing more and more components https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/open-sourcing-proceeding/2468... https://github.com/sailfishos/sailfish-weather/ https://github.com/sailfishos/jolla-camera It's still more open than AOSP

Post by fsflover » Sat, Jun 27, 2026, 1:59 PM UTC

gf000 wrote: post #130

ux266478 wrote: post #86

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The irony you fail to realize, the differences listed in fact would be typical of a random Unix system in the 80s, where it's just a mountain of bad and random opinions stapled on top of a Unix system. Some random and half-baked libc? You got it! Some bizarre and overly convoluted greenfield filesystem structure? It's right there! Completely different and frustrating custom linker behavior? Yep! Everything I listed w…

Which system has better security from an end-user perspective? Only iOS comes anywhere close.

Post by fsflover » Sat, Jun 27, 2026, 2:04 PM UTC

tormeh wrote: post #122

Retr0id wrote: post #23

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Huh. I really don't see the point of this, vs something like GrapheneOS. Edit: I'm well aware of the differences between typical Linux and Android (especially the security architecture!), and I'm willing to make some sacrifices in the name of FOSS... but only if it's actually FOSS.

If it has the "security" architecture of Linux (it's really more of a multi-tenant architecture) then that's a complete deal breaker. Wouldn't want it if it was 1000x faster/betterer than Android. Our desktop OSes are just incompatible with running untrusted software, and you're gonna want to do that.

Post by g-b-r » Sat, Jun 27, 2026, 4:10 PM UTC

Andromxda wrote: post #180

g-b-r wrote: post #60

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Straight up conspiracy theories you're spreading here. Daniel Micay is Canadian, Dmytro Mukhomor is Ukrainian (he was literally conscripted into the Ukrainian army last year), and Khalykbek Yelshibekov is from Kazakhstan. > Micay is somewhat Russian-sounding too Sorry what?

Post by g-b-r » Sat, Jun 27, 2026, 4:33 PM UTC

microtonal wrote: post #69

ThatMedicIsASpy wrote: post #48

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My xperia 10 iii was 280€(+50€ OS) vs 500€++ for a pixel. But I hate phones. All I want is navigation, sms/call, signal, steam and firefox.

Ehm, a Pixel 9a is currently 349 Euro here (10a 399 Euro). Given that the OS is free, that's only a 19 Euro difference. For a much better camera, much better SoC, much better pretty much everything. Of course, if your goal is to run SailfishOS, there is currently not much of another option.