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Microsoft new Outlook takes 10 seconds to do what Outlook Classic does instantly

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Re: Microsoft new Outlook takes 10 seconds to do what Outlook Classic does instantly

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Post by yndoendo »

bonoboTP wrote: post #77

Why are you not on thunderbird yet? Why do you get Windows notifications? Are you using Windows? I don't understand how there are people who can notice such things but still use windows in 2026. Also, please don't write with AI. This post was written with AI.

Often people have no say in the matter. Major of forced Microsoft usage comes from corporate IT. Corporate IT likes Microsoft because the amount of tooling available to manage it. Often these same people run Linux or Mac at home.

Rest of the people do not know the difference or know how to change out the software with better alternatives. Example, Firefox keeps loosing customers to Chrome and yet Firefox fully supports Manifest V2 with proper Ad-Block support, which increases computer security. Show these people an Ad heavy website with Chrome vs Firefox & U-Block Origin, this looks like magic to them.

Personally, you have to pay me to use Microsoft products. I have been game exclusively on Linux for nearly 10 years now. Before that, 5 years of dual booting just to game.

Re: Microsoft new Outlook takes 10 seconds to do what Outlook Classic does instantly

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Post by tennfown »

itopaloglu83 wrote: post #22
netsharc wrote: post #5

Started a new job, with Windows 11. notepad.exe now takes 3 to 4 seconds to load on my work system... (even after closing the last tab and reopening the program). Hah, it even has in-app purchases, for AI writing...

Microslop at its best. I’m struggling to understand what their end goal is. How much can you half ass everything until your entire company becomes just a nuisance.

At thsi point i think the current goal is the annoy the tiny ants in the consumer market who complain and are a nuisance , but don’t make them much money compared is the big boys in the enterprise world.

Re: Microsoft new Outlook takes 10 seconds to do what Outlook Classic does instantly

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Post by number6 »

vladvasiliu wrote: post #63
patates wrote: post #8

> Outlook is based on WebView2, and like all web apps, it’s slow Fastmail also has a web based email client, which is as fast as (if not faster than) Outlook Classic. The new Outlook is just bad. Load order is wrong, it renders everything on every window, loads unnecessary data, etc. Plain annoying.

IME running the new outlook in an actual web browser (through outlook.office.com) is waaay faster than the heavy (heh) client. Bonus points for it running fine on Linux, too. I understand there are some missing features compared to the old one (can't recall which), but for basic corpo emailing it works perfectly for me. I now have 0 reasons to use Windows at work, so, for once, I'll nonironically cheer MS for a job w…

Even their Office Suite runs okay in the Web. For heavy lifting, like getting an md file into our Corporate Design, I still use libreoffice combned with our template.

Re: Microsoft new Outlook takes 10 seconds to do what Outlook Classic does instantly

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Post by storus »

I couldn't even get new Outlook to sync with some email accounts. And my Office 2019 licenses will stop working next month due to a cert expiry Trojan horse baked in by Microsoft. Why does MS think I will ever want to pay them for anything ever again?

Re: Microsoft new Outlook takes 10 seconds to do what Outlook Classic does instantly

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Post by jl6 »

> Speaking of memory, the new Outlook uses between 490 MB and 636 MB of RAM while idle, with individual sessions varying based on mailbox size. Outlook Classic, doing the same job, uses around 117 MB to 148 MB at idle. A roughly fourfold difference.

They really picked the wrong timeline in which to 4x RAM usage for no benefit.

Re: Microsoft new Outlook takes 10 seconds to do what Outlook Classic does instantly

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Post by itopaloglu83 »

LollipopYakuza wrote: post #54
itopaloglu83 wrote: post #22

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Microslop at its best. I’m struggling to understand what their end goal is. How much can you half ass everything until your entire company becomes just a nuisance.

I have had the same thought for years. I guess their monopoly makes them able not to care about quality (and does not depend on it). A big decision maker, before signing a big contract, will look at the budget and won't care about how good is the UX.

At some point I assume somebody had to explain why the start menu is 40-50 times slower than previous releases. Or they simply vibe-code something and ship it not caring what they created.

Re: Microsoft new Outlook takes 10 seconds to do what Outlook Classic does instantly

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Post by reddalo »

teekert wrote: post #112

New Outlook also does not do IMAP for me at all. Even though it says it does, sending you on a nice time wasting goose hunt. Thank you MS.

New Outlook doesn't actually do IMAP at all. What it does is sending your IMAP credentials in clear text to a remote Microsoft server, which will then fetch email for you.

Re: Microsoft new Outlook takes 10 seconds to do what Outlook Classic does instantly

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Post by criddell »

oasisbob wrote: post #167
criddell wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That one is a little slower for me too - about 700 ms (it's a difficult thing to time with a stopwatch).

The iOS app "Is it snappy?" Is great for things like this.

That's really cool and what a great idea. Thanks for the recommendation.
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