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Hetzner Price Adjustment

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Re: Hetzner Price Adjustment

#181

And the worst for my setup, there is no more ECC RAM available in their offers. At least not unless you pay an insane amount of cash..

Server auction still features cheap servers with ECC: https://www.hetzner.com/sb/#ecc=true

Not reliable, from a buying/availability perspective.

Re: Hetzner Price Adjustment

#182
It is sucking away electricity from cities, making hardware costly for common user, pumping heat into global atmosphere, taking away jobs, creating massive amount of slop, killing human motivation for creativity, making academics and exams harder, creating fakes that are undetectable, filling internet with plastic content, pumping tons of unmaintainable code, wrecking websites ...

Still - AI is a great achievement?

Re: Hetzner Price Adjustment

#183
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This is the real risk after the slow death of personal computing. Even internet resources like servers will be hoarded by the hyperscalers that are the only ones who can afford to order years of compute hardware in advance. I’ve already started buying cheap old business PCs just in case I’ll ever need to have simple barebones machines to run things on.

I work on a desktop, but as a backup I have bought a refurbished Dell Latitude, there are a lot of decent ones for €250 on eBay. Put Linux on it, it’s good enough for most workloads. I just hope my top shelf 2020-era desktop doesn’t die on me because it would get very expensive to get a new build these days.

> I just hope my top shelf 2020-era desktop doesn’t die on me because it would get very expensive to get a new build these days.

I could probably sell my gaming rig (12900K, 64GB of DDR5, 4TB NVME, RTX 3090) for more today than what I built it for about 4 years ago, it's absurd. I won't, of course, because it's still glorious for 4K gaming even today. In retrospect, $5000 very well spent.

Re: Hetzner Price Adjustment

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And I was told my whole life that capitalism solved everything through supply and demand magic. I wish I could say I am disappointed.

The beauty of supply and demand magic is that the market is now open for anyone that can provide server hosting cheaply.

I can't wait for a scrappy startup to spend a couple billion dollars and several years setting up a new fab for chips so we can see the prices go down!

Re: Hetzner Price Adjustment

#185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the real risk after the slow death of personal computing. Even internet resources like servers will be hoarded by the hyperscalers that are the only ones who can afford to order years of compute hardware in advance. I’ve already started buying cheap old business PCs just in case I’ll ever need to have simple barebones machines to run things on.

And I was told my whole life that capitalism solved everything through supply and demand magic. I wish I could say I am disappointed.

What they conveniently leave out is that it sometimes takes over a decade for a correction

Re: Hetzner Price Adjustment

#186

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And I was told my whole life that capitalism solved everything through supply and demand magic. I wish I could say I am disappointed.

It is supply and demand but chip supply isn't very elastic and the producers are conservative about adding capacity that won't be needed by the time it's online.

Doesn’t this presume that chip fabs are betting that the AI boom is a bubble that’s going to pop?

Seems kinda hard to believe at this point, no?

Re: Hetzner Price Adjustment

#187

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The beauty of supply and demand magic is that the market is now open for anyone that can provide server hosting cheaply.

Good luck getting the hardware for that eh?

I volunteer my laptop, I suggest you and others do the same. We can hook them up in a VPN with E2ee. We just need 1 public IP. Lets Go!

Re: Hetzner Price Adjustment

#188

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The beauty of supply and demand magic is that the market is now open for anyone that can provide server hosting cheaply.

Good luck getting the hardware for that eh?

That's the rub. There is no such thing as "anyone that can supply hardware cheaply"

Either it's an established vendor with designs and fabs or it's a newcomer that needs to invest a massive pile of cash in designs and fabs. Neither are cheap.

Re: Hetzner Price Adjustment

#189

It really is an absolute massive jump. Have no clue what's going on in the back to warrant a 3x increase... 25-50%, sure.. but 3x is wild.

> Have no clue what's going on in the back

Hetzner and OVH and other bare metal but low cost providers use commodity hardware. When that commodity hardware increases there is simply no other option. The secret to the success of these providers is using common off-the-shelf hardware instead of specialized server hardware, which is now being cannibalized.

Re: Hetzner Price Adjustment

#190

This is just the reality of hardware costs now. RAM and Disk are scarce, prices have skyrocketed. I wonder how much leverage the hyperscalers like AWS/GCP/Azure have on their own supply chain to keep costs level in their clouds.

This is the real risk after the slow death of personal computing. Even internet resources like servers will be hoarded by the hyperscalers that are the only ones who can afford to order years of compute hardware in advance. I’ve already started buying cheap old business PCs just in case I’ll ever need to have simple barebones machines to run things on.

How do these prices compare to buying a PC in the early 90s?
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