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Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use

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Re: Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use

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Post by josephg »

xp84 wrote: post #129
spott wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which products are outstanding in their categories? Gmail isn't outstanding, search isn't outstanding, maps isn't outstanding. They are all pretty par for the course. Google used to be outstanding... but I'm not sure of a single product they have that is outstanding (def: significantly better than the competition) anymore. On the other hand I rarely use any google products these days, so maybe I'm not the one to be j…

I'm not a fan of Google, and also not attached to Apple or Microsoft, so this isn't me trying to stan for Google, but I'd like to request that you give examples of what competing products are categorically better (and, by what metric(s) you're judging - code quality? stability? robust set of features?) -- for Gmail, Docs/Drive/etc, Google Calendar, Maps, Classroom, YouTube. As far as I can tell, if judged by the mark…

> but I'd like to request that you give examples of what competing products are categorically better

Personally I much prefer Fastmail to Gmail. The site is way faster and more cohesively designed. Fastmail supports jmap, and way more imap extensions (including push support on Apple mail). They have helpful humans handling support requests. And they do all of that with what seems like 1/10th or less the number of employees.

The only thing I like more about Gmail is their native mobile apps. Fastmail’s official mobile app is a web view.

Re: Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use

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Post by torginus »

newobj wrote: post #99
z2 wrote: post #14

This all feels like a race where the model companies try to solve doing work locally in a way that doesn't suck, before the major operating systems companies figure out AI integration into their OS that doesn't suck. It also makes me wonder why Google which has both Gemini and Android can't figure this out, and if there are lessons to draw from that.

Google is historically terrible as a product company (and has succeeded in spite of that) As their technical innovations become less of a moat (we're already there) they won't be able to win on engineering alone (they are no longer winning on engineering alone)

As a person who gets paid to make Chrome (CEF really) do its bidding, I would say Chrome is really as close to an OS as it can get, as in I've found API or service typically an OS or an external tool would provide, that wasn't built into Chrome.

Re: Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use

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Post by maweaver »

literatepeople wrote: post #45

I didn’t get a screenshot of this, but I just found a really pointed example of Anthropics lack of craft / rush to build. If you open Claude on Windows, and click Dispatch (under cowork) to start that up, it will tell you that you need permissions windows doesn’t have. When you click the buttons for those permissions, it has broken links to macOS system preferences. I really encourage someone to try it and post the i…

I don't know where's a good place to post a screenshot, but can confirm I get a dialog saying:

> Get an app to open this 'x-apple.systempreferences' link

> Your PC doesn't have an app that can open this link. Try looking for a compatible app in the Microsoft Store.

Re: Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use

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Post by torginus »

Is it just me, but this feels like Claude gets to have a nigh-impenetrable black box right on your machine and you have no idea what is going on inside it.

After all, the last time I encountered Hyper-V it was in the context of copy protection that prevented crackers from observing or interfering with video game protection

Re: Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use

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Post by cadamsdotcom »

adi_kurian wrote: post #128
BigTTYGothGF wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Gmail isn't outstanding, search isn't outstanding, maps isn't outstanding They were at the time.

Is there a better Maps app? I guess those gaussian splats on Apple Maps could be p. neat.

Apple Maps is - or soon will - show ads. A trillion dollar company that charges thousands for the device. So that’s out.

OsmAnd’s UI really doesn’t suit me, and there are a few others that I personally liked even less.

But Organic Maps ticks enough boxes to come close. I’ve been using Organic Maps on iOS for driving, and it’s tolerable. And for offline mapping it’s a godsend.

Re: Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use

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Post by josephg »

robotresearcher wrote: post #157
7tythr33 wrote: post #133

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An email client (Gmail app) that is 500mb? What’s _outstanding_ about that? Almost everything Google makes now is terrible. Try some alternatives.

Honest question: what's a candidate for better? The search needs to be really good, as that was always a strong point for Gmail.

I really like Fastmail. It’s just - clean and lightweight. It loads much faster. Has all the features you actually need. No mystery meat. And the UI doesn’t churn every few years for no reason.

Re: Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use

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Post by rvnx »

tcoff91 wrote: post #127
rvnx wrote: post #117

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Google Cloud is great, compared to legacy and fragmented AWS

Yeah it's great until they absolutely destroy you like Unisuper or Railway. Support is part of the package when it comes to product and their support SUCKS. I would absolutely NEVER use GCP for any business I was in charge of. Google cannot be trusted.

I tend to agree :/

Re: Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use

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Post by danudey »

saltamimi wrote: post #112
jstummbillig wrote: post #108

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How are Google products anything but outstanding in their categories? What are you comparing to?

The Pixel series outside of security (to which their own flavor of Android doesn't even take advantage of like we see with GrapheneOS) doesn't have any particular outliers that would make it any more or less enticing than another company's phone. Their ChromeOS hardware was nice but had lackluster software and by the time it was EoL'd, never got the love of ChromeOS-present. Google TV generally gets outpaced by onn (…

A big part of why Stadia was cancelled is because it didn't get traction, and a big part of why it didn't get traction was because of how many people assumed it was just going to get cancelled.

Re: Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use

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Post by scuff3d »

newobj wrote: post #99
z2 wrote: post #14

This all feels like a race where the model companies try to solve doing work locally in a way that doesn't suck, before the major operating systems companies figure out AI integration into their OS that doesn't suck. It also makes me wonder why Google which has both Gemini and Android can't figure this out, and if there are lessons to draw from that.

Google is historically terrible as a product company (and has succeeded in spite of that) As their technical innovations become less of a moat (we're already there) they won't be able to win on engineering alone (they are no longer winning on engineering alone)

On a semi-related note, I bought a Pixel phone about a month ago, and I'm shocked by how unpolished it is. I've had so many little annoyances pop up, issues I never had on other android phones. Keyboard hiding/appearing when it's not suppose to, bluetooth dropping, WiFi dropping, network switching taking forever, screen becoming unresponsive... It's mostly all small things, but they really start to add up after a while.
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