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AI is just unauthorised plagiarism at a bigger scale

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Re: AI is just unauthorised plagiarism at a bigger scale

#181

You guys have fun arguing. I'm gonna be building cool stuff.

> I'm gonna be building cool stuff. hardly. at best you're going to be asking a robot to build questionable stuff with other people's LEGOs

You just described all software.

Re: AI is just unauthorised plagiarism at a bigger scale

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post #171

if theres just one good thing coming out of ai its breaking copyright law forever. no one should be able to "own" ideas. royalties for commercial use is another thing and i support it but what we know as (non commercial) piracy and unlicensed fan art should be 100% legal

Copyright specifically doesn't and never did protect "ideas", it protects expression.

Re: AI is just unauthorised plagiarism at a bigger scale

#183

People need to cope with the fact that no thought is original. Even Newton and Leibniz were having the same thoughts at the same time. Get over it.

I've noticed that AI has caused this narrative to become more popular. "Nothing is original anyway, so why bother?" That's pure cope and you know it. A deep insecurity masked as bold truthtelling.

Re: AI is just unauthorised plagiarism at a bigger scale

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post #171

if theres just one good thing coming out of ai its breaking copyright law forever. no one should be able to "own" ideas. royalties for commercial use is another thing and i support it but what we know as (non commercial) piracy and unlicensed fan art should be 100% legal

I wonder how many of the books I love would still have been written in a world where somebody could scoop them all up and post them on the internet for free (and run ads).

Re: AI is just unauthorised plagiarism at a bigger scale

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post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve been thinking of a proof-of-work scheme for accessing content where you effectively need to mine some crypto for the author, but, this idea might not fly today

But that will be a hassle for human visitors as well. A web doing proof-of-work to browse, will be a disaster for phones with their limited batteries, etc.

To be specific, it would be more of a hassle for human visitors than for the AI companies with infinite money and specialized browsers.

Re: AI is just unauthorised plagiarism at a bigger scale

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post #122

You guys have fun arguing. I'm gonna be building cool stuff.

Still waiting for this massive wave of cool stuff.

OpenClaw. Vibe-coded and one of the most rapidly successful and popular pieces of software ever developed.

Re: AI is just unauthorised plagiarism at a bigger scale

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post #27

The broader problem of original sources not being given credit in a way that rewards them remains. Websites owners are paying to host their content so that spiders can come and crawl them and index it into the AI and then if they’re lucky, they might get a citation, but otherwise there’s very little reward for being a provider of content. And of course, this is something that’s getting worse and worse. Why look at a…

It's never been a problem with people ad-blocking for the last 20 years, why is it suddenly a problem now? We've been celebrating denying creators revenue for decades... Maybe this is just the internet hypocricy of "When I do it, it's good, when they do it, it's bad".

Choosing not to look at something is not denying anyone anything.

Re: AI is just unauthorised plagiarism at a bigger scale

#188

People need to cope with the fact that no thought is original. Even Newton and Leibniz were having the same thoughts at the same time. Get over it.

Nono, actually there are no thoughts. Every utterance is just a copy of a previous utterance plus a slight random mutation. (somewhat /s)

Re: AI is just unauthorised plagiarism at a bigger scale

#189
I'm reasonably information wants to be free. I think the copyright cartels have enacted a lot of damage

Having said that Facebook has to be one of the worst offenders. They don't even allow links to Anna's Archive, they seemingly scraped (maliciously; their crawlers are more resource intensive than anyone else's) LibGen for profit - which is a different calculus

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