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Re: Cisco workforce reductions

#181

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Have you look at how efficient your local government is?

When local governments are captured by corporate interests this isn't the argument you think it is.

"captured by corporate" is a feature. It is either Corporate or the Vanguard. We are almost agreeing.

Re: Cisco workforce reductions

#182
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My extremely cynical, but not yet proven wrong view: Tech, more or less, has a group of investors centered around Silicon Valley. Not the only ones, but especially now, the most active. Generally, these folk have a lot of exposure to AI, and probably mostly believe the hype around it. Which means they believe companies using AI should produce better results, which in the current market means short-term cash. So if a…

I agree with you. Putting myself in the shoes of a tech CEO, I see other companies laying off and saying that their AI strategy made them so productive that they don't need 20% of their employees anymore, I see investors flocking to that company, I look at my company and feel investor FOMO, I layoff as well.

It's nothing personal, it's just how the US works. If this were to happen in Europe, your company would burn to the ground. The amount of compensation you'd have to do would eat your gains from the layoffs.

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Diversity is the term to disguise cheaper labor. Call it women, ethnic minorities, trans, neuro divergent, on wheelchair, or those having criminal records. It's a brilliant slogan, not just because virtue signalling, but because it spawns cross cultural factions, all selfishly united to defend it. At no further brainwashing cost to you. You dare to attack it? You are out. Pack your stuff, and your shame. Consolation?…

Maybe America should export US labour and safety standards. Outsourcers don’t just compete on price, they compete on hours worked, and support given. You do it in outsourcing contracts to a degree, just go further - holidays available, work hours, firing procedures, support and health services. I do know that FDA inspectors travel to factories around the world to ensure they are compliant. You’d remove the incentive…

That's essentially colonialism. You can't go into other countries and change their labour laws, it's a violation of their sovereignty. Obviously there's a huge problem with uneven development across the world that makes outsourcing possible and difficult for workers in the developed world, but I'm not sure such a solution would be politically feasible.

Re: Cisco workforce reductions

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This is why you owe nothing to your employer, record revenue with management bonus, and layoffs for those that helped get there. Those extra hours? Only if the team really needs them. Naturally this tends to be something only seniors see, thus ageism.

>Those extra hours? Only if the team really needs them. ? I started a new job a year ago. Overtime pay in contract. I gladly work and report overtime as I get paid way more :) BUT there has to be a real reason, such as deadline, alarm/alert and such. You people are just lost. But I am in Sweden with a union job hehehe

Same here, some of your southern neighbours also have unions on IT, as a union in general covers specific industries, regardless of what job each person does in the building.

As a tip for others as well, even without an union it helps to be aware of the country labour laws even if superficially.

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#185

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Way to paint with a really broad brush...

I use my real life experience to form my opinions, yes.

I'm sure you do. But your real life experience is not everyone else's real life experience, so there's no really need to make blanket statements about people.

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#186

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I use my real life experience to form my opinions, yes.

I'm sure you do. But your real life experience is not everyone else's real life experience, so there's no really need to make blanket statements about people.

Blanket statement - western europe is where people want to live

Wrong?

Ok good, don't come here then.

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I'm sure you do. But your real life experience is not everyone else's real life experience, so there's no really need to make blanket statements about people.

Blanket statement - western europe is where people want to live Wrong? Ok good, don't come here then.

Oh wow, you went from one place to some totally different place at the drop of a hat. Where did me "coming" to Western Europe come into the discussion about racial stereotyping about Indians? I'm not in Western Europe, and I don't plan to live there, not sure how you got that impression.

I think there's no reasoning with someone who only wants to deal in absolutes. Have a good day.

Re: Cisco workforce reductions

#189
post #46

My extremely cynical, but not yet proven wrong view: Tech, more or less, has a group of investors centered around Silicon Valley. Not the only ones, but especially now, the most active. Generally, these folk have a lot of exposure to AI, and probably mostly believe the hype around it. Which means they believe companies using AI should produce better results, which in the current market means short-term cash. So if a…

> to the fragile dinosaur that Github has become.

GitLab has just as many outages, just nobody notices/cares so much

Re: Cisco workforce reductions

#190

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Diversity is the term to disguise cheaper labor. Call it women, ethnic minorities, trans, neuro divergent, on wheelchair, or those having criminal records. It's a brilliant slogan, not just because virtue signalling, but because it spawns cross cultural factions, all selfishly united to defend it. At no further brainwashing cost to you. You dare to attack it? You are out. Pack your stuff, and your shame. Consolation?…

This is so obvious now that you point it out I'm embarrassed not to have noticed it. By the way, I was wondering if learning Hindi would be the winning strategy here. Be the only white guy speaking Hindi, instant hire.

No. Very large numbers of Indians, particularly ones in the US do not even really speak Hindi or use it much. It is more common for them to speak their local languages and good luck learning all of those. Also, the culture is such that I think they would just have a good laugh as they click delete on your resume or whatever.
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