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Re: Knitting bullshit

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Post by sharadov »

Tade0 wrote: post #71
frereubu wrote: post #13

I wonder if (or, more accurately hope that) this kind of slop will eventually die out as people realise how little care is put into it. I am more and more convinced that if the devil existed he'd take care of the bigger stuff, but have an army of little devils that encourage people to do things like make unsupervised automated podcasts about knitting, relentlessly chipping away at the messy joys of living.

Just like Big Tobacco moved onto greener pastures in the developing world, Big Slop is not targeting specifically us, but the billions of new internet users who connected over the past decade: https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/IT.NET.USER.ZS There's this (now old) meme called "Italian brainrot" - AI generated characters with vaguely Italian-sounding names like Bombardiro Crocodilo (note the incorrect spelling of t…

That's how characters are named in "Steal a Brainrot" , a Roblox game.

Re: Knitting bullshit

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Post by gyomu »

ipsento606 wrote: post #93

Increasingly, my reaction to AI-generated content of basically all types is simply a deep, resonant sadness. The growth of AI feels a little like losing a limb - there is an initial shock of sadness, an initial dose of loss, an initial sense of what has been taken away. But then for months and years afterwards, the daily occurrence of some other little humdrum experience, and only at the moment of the encounter does…

The saddest part to me was realizing that pretty much no one gives a shit.

I knew that they were plenty of careless people with no taste for truth or quality in the world, but I didn’t realize there were so many of them.

Especially so amongst my friends and family members and coworkers. Here’s someone who’s now sending AI generated messages for daily communication. Here’s someone who’s now using AI generated slop art to promote their work. Here’s someone who turns to ChatGPT for any random question they have. No regard for beauty or truth or personal expression or the quality of expert work, only hooked to the “get this done” machine.

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Post by surgical_fire »

edbaskerville wrote: post #178
bellorap wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting, sounds like a similar experience to my reading of this reply The root comment brings insight and value and stakes out a human position. I don’t see a need to snipe from the hedges

I think maybe they were saying that their personal AI slop detector had produced a false positive on "whole personhood", and they felt sad about that? Or perhaps I'm missing it.

Correct. Perhaps I originally phrased it poorly?

I am annoyed at my slop detector firing at something completely benign.

Re: Knitting bullshit

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Post by nephihaha »

augment_me wrote: post #41
ratmice wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can't wear feelings and validation...

If you only care about the material and physical utility of the product, you can order the sweater from AliExpress for 5% of the cost and no time spent.

Knitting is enjoyable for many people and can even be a form of stress relief. AliExpress is just more consumption.

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Post by nephihaha »

pjc50 wrote: post #34
tovej wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you serious when you connect anti-AI sentiment to anti-science sentiment? To me, they are opposite sentiments, and my experience discussing AI with others supports this. The most pro-AI people I meet are very far removed from science, and my research colleagues are definitely more critical of AI than not.

AI's tendency to emit unsourced, untrue statements with authority is about the most unscientific thing you can get. AI is scientism : presenting science-flavoured things as a cultural marker.

Unfortunately there is a lot of cargo cult science around. I am not just referring to alternative viewpoints (which vary in validity), but even things from mainstream outlets masquerading as mainstream science.

One such example was businesses claiming physical cash was unhygienic while promoting dirty touchscreens for ordering. Real science has indicated that many of these touchscreens are covered in bacteria if they are not cleaned regularly.

The Daily Mail has been telling us that the Yellowstone supervolcano is about to blow for nearly thirty years now at least. Maybe one day it will, but hasn't yet.

Re: Knitting bullshit

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Post by nephihaha »

tim333 wrote: post #177
trgn wrote: post #92

it's really disheartening that so much youtube content is now AI generated.

At least they don't get many views. Not sure why the system suggests them? Maybe they could have an "AI crap" feedback button to warn others?

I have reported some of it to YouTube. No idea if anything will come of it. A lot of fake C.S. Lewis and Carl Jung content for some reason. It bears no resemblance to things they actually said.

Re: Knitting bullshit

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Post by nephihaha »

latexr wrote: post #28
frereubu wrote: post #13

I wonder if (or, more accurately hope that) this kind of slop will eventually die out as people realise how little care is put into it. I am more and more convinced that if the devil existed he'd take care of the bigger stuff, but have an army of little devils that encourage people to do things like make unsupervised automated podcasts about knitting, relentlessly chipping away at the messy joys of living.

At the start of Good Omens, there’s a scene where demons are sharing their recent misdeeds. A couple of them are sharing “classic” demon stuff like killing and possessing, but Crowley (the protagonist demon) shares more modern evil deeds, such as creating traffic jams. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Omens I’d link to a clip of it, but to your point some devil is making it frustratingly hard to find.

I think Good Omens may have been influenced by the 1960s version of Bedazzled. In that, Peter Cook's version of the Devil spends much of his time creating petty annoyances such as scratching vinyl records and putting them back on shelves, breaking parking meters so drivers get fined, and ripping the last pages out of Agatha Christie whodunnits etc. Definitely a touch of Douglas Adams in there as well.

Re: Knitting bullshit

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Post by danparsonson »

augment_me wrote: post #45
danparsonson wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could justify basically anything with that logic. Change isn't always about progress.

In this case, the user is deciding that they choose what progress is. I am saying, that people who use the tool and value the utility of it decide what is progress. If people listen to the podcast, or use doctors in the phone because it provides them any value, it will be a change and a perceived progress for them. If the generated podcasts did not bring any value to the users, such as validation, or engagement, they…

> If the generated podcasts did not bring any value to the users, such as validation, or engagement, they would not use them, and there would be no change.

Ever heard of heroin?

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