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4TB of voice samples just stolen from 40k AI contractors at Mercor

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Re: 4TB of voice samples just stolen from 40k AI contractors at Mercor

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The only data that cannot be stolen or leaked is data that doesn't exist. Hard lesson for both users and companies. Germans (because of course) have a word for this: "Datensparsamkeit". Being frugal with your data.

Or you could put it in a box with no connection to the internet.

Introducing… The Hooli Box!

Re: 4TB of voice samples just stolen from 40k AI contractors at Mercor

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Are you talking about singing lessons, or actual talking training? Singing lessons helped me sing but didn't change the way i talked at all, but i was only able to afford them for a summer so maybe it takes more time than that

I'm referring to speaking, not singing. After a _lot_ of work, I can speak passably as a woman or man and switch freely between the two. Depending on context I generally choose just one for the entire conversation, as switching tends to cause whiplash in the listener (^_^).

I'm curious as to what prompted you to pursue this ability.

Re: 4TB of voice samples just stolen from 40k AI contractors at Mercor

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post #175

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Did you go to high school? A sister of a friend of a friend says blah blah blah and everybody knows that yadda yadda. Same thing happens in big companies, especially among people who are out of the loop but wish they knew all the inside details. I see this all the time and sometimes it sounds like something that would be pretty damaging in a court case. In other cases I have heard people who ought to know better spec…

> Did you go to high school? Hey, fuck you too buddy. I said this based on my years of working at companies on projects specifically to do things like delete all data as soon as it was legally permissible so it could never come up in court again. And most of my “let’s take this offline” chats have led to discussions around doing illegal shit. Hell, I had one manager give me handwritten code on paper and instructions…

Sorry, I shouldn't have said it that way. What I meant was "remember high school?" Reading back i think it could look like "are you someone who didn't go to high school, because you sound uneducated?" Not my intent, and not something i would say.

The situations you describe are not what I have experienced, which I guess makes me lucky.

My point was that in discovery, the idle chatter of know-nothings looks bad. But if there are companies that really have something to hide, well I guess that's what discovery is for. And as for your manager pal, if someone did that I'd be looking for work that very afternoon.

Re: 4TB of voice samples just stolen from 40k AI contractors at Mercor

#185
post #44

> If you were a Mercor contractor and you believe your voice may already be in circulation, ORAVYS will analyze the first three suspect samples free of charge. Awesome, if you're a victim of an AI company having your voice, you can help yourself by sending another AI company your voice! > Audio is never used to train commercial models without explicit consent I'm sure Mercor has explicit consent as well, legal teams…

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Re: 4TB of voice samples just stolen from 40k AI contractors at Mercor

#186
post #2

Author here. Wrote this after watching Lapsus$ post the Mercor archive on their leak site earlier this month. The thing that struck me is the combination: voice samples paired with ID document scans. Most breaches leak one or the other. This one ships a deepfake-ready kit. Tried to keep the writeup practical: what an attacker can actually do with this combo (banking voiceprint bypass, Arup-style video calls, insuranc…

HSBC offered voice verification years ago and I just laughed and said nope. I don’t even use biometrics on apple devices, I use a 6 digit pin. It was always a stupid idea. The thing about been willing to trade convenience for security is you get called paranoid and then when the other shoe does drop and you are still doing that you still get called paranoid for the current thing you are not doing that “everyone does”…

Paraphrasing Franklin and Churchill, those who trade some security for some convenience may soon find themselves possessed of neither at all.

Re: 4TB of voice samples just stolen from 40k AI contractors at Mercor

#187
post #137

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I'm taking some college courses, and one of them explicitly suggests to keep maybe-not-okay communications off of email so that "you don't expose your company to risks of litigation." Ah, I see. So, when discussing ways to ensure cuatomers cannot utilize our warranty process, I'll make sure to do so in ways that are not traceable and won't show up in discovery.

The general rule for email, text, and all other communications I've heard is: "Don't write anything that you wouldn't be comfortable seeing on the front page of the New York times." Heard that first from a US mil commander who once ran for a minor political office like state rep.

I’ve also been told to preface all of my written communications with “dear lawyers and the FDA” at a job. Not that we did anything illegal, but sometimes you catch yourself writing statements that would be really easy to misconstrue.

Re: 4TB of voice samples just stolen from 40k AI contractors at Mercor

#188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm referring to speaking, not singing. After a _lot_ of work, I can speak passably as a woman or man and switch freely between the two. Depending on context I generally choose just one for the entire conversation, as switching tends to cause whiplash in the listener (^_^).

I'm curious as to what prompted you to pursue this ability.

There is a common enough need for this for some

Re: 4TB of voice samples just stolen from 40k AI contractors at Mercor

#189
post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Stasi would be the obvious cultural context. In the US of course the government buys this sort of information legally from corporations.

The stasi could only dream of the kind of surveillance the NSA et al has today.

Or Facebook or Equifax.

Re: 4TB of voice samples just stolen from 40k AI contractors at Mercor

#190
post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Did you go to high school? Hey, fuck you too buddy. I said this based on my years of working at companies on projects specifically to do things like delete all data as soon as it was legally permissible so it could never come up in court again. And most of my “let’s take this offline” chats have led to discussions around doing illegal shit. Hell, I had one manager give me handwritten code on paper and instructions…

Sorry, I shouldn't have said it that way. What I meant was "remember high school?" Reading back i think it could look like "are you someone who didn't go to high school, because you sound uneducated?" Not my intent, and not something i would say. The situations you describe are not what I have experienced, which I guess makes me lucky. My point was that in discovery, the idle chatter of know-nothings looks bad. But i…

>Sorry, I shouldn't have said it that way. What I meant was "remember high school?" Reading back i think it could look like "are you someone who didn't go to high school, because you sound uneducated?" Not my intent, and not something i would say.

apology accepted and I rescind my insult.

> My point was that in discovery, the idle chatter of know-nothings looks bad. But if there are companies that really have something to hide, well I guess that's what discovery is for. And as for your manager pal, if someone did that I'd be looking for work that very afternoon.

I did, switched jobs a few weeks later after that. Did keep the paper and let him know I still had it just to fuck with him back during those weeks however.

> The situations you describe are not what I have experienced, which I guess makes me lucky.

It may be the opposite and I was just unlucky, but I have run into multiple situations with companies making 100s of millions to billions a year where that sort of behavior occurred, so if people are being trained to hide unfortunate conversations then I am going to assume the worst barring large amounts of contrary evidence.

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