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Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by Swizec »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #150
embedding-shape wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right, Apple is a US company, with typical US culture, and they always try to "follow the letter of the law but not the spirit" when it comes to privacy and also when it comes to the age checks. In this particular case, they seem to have implemented the check in the worst possible way too, even the account age is above the age limit, what's hard to figure out here? Is it surprising that people blame the company and t…

> even the account age is above the age limit, what's hard to figure out here? I have a gmail thats old enough to drink anywhere in the world, and never used it for youtube, accidentally opened youtube, they asked me for my age. At some point, I think its okay to just use account age instead of even asking.

> At some point, I think its okay to just use account age instead of even asking

Bet you there’s already a thriving grey market for old accounts with organic history.

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Post by ap99 »

raincole wrote: post #47

> Credit cards are not documents. Many people don’t have them. Apple don’t provide any other way to verify your age because they are a stupid American company with American values in which you’re just as human as your credit score. UK passed age verification law and people still find a way to blame the US.

It's more out of convenience that credit card is used.

There isn't some American principle that human = credit score. Americans just don't want their government ID required to do basic things.

See discord age verification controversy.

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by ta9000 »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #163
ta9000 wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is it a US corporation’s job to unfuck UK laws? If they did get involved, you’d blast them for meddling.

Corporations don’t belong to a single jurisdiction.

Should Apple be responsible for righting the wrongs of legislation in every country it operates in? I don’t think so. Ideally it would mettle as little as possible, even though they clearly don’t (see right to repair).

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by golfer »

golfer wrote: post #75

These "breaking up with Apple" stories pop up from time to time here. Cracks me up because they all follow the same pattern: "I'm done with Apple. I've been a Mac user since since $EARLY_YEAR. I loved using $OLD_APPLE_HARDWARE to work on $VARIOUS_INTERESTING_PROJECTS. I fondly recall $FORMATIVE_APPLE_MEMORY. But they've gone too far. $NEW_APPLE_ENSHITTIFICATION is the last straw, I can't do this any more. This will b…

Wow, this seems to have hit a nerve, based on the early downvotes.

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by karel-3d »

I didn't know MNT existed

https://shop.mntre.com/

The laptops seem... crazy enough. And what you get for your buck is even less than with normal PC manufacturers, let alone Apple. You get CPU that is slow for a phone. For 1300 USD.

On the other hand I have a weird urge to buy one and use as a daily.

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by [deleted] »

joshgachnang wrote: post #52
lynndotpy wrote: post #6

The space allocated for "Apple has lost their way" has been maxed out for decades, so it bears stressing that this time is different. This Liquid Glass debacle has disillusioned everyone from hardcore Apple fans to normal people who otherwise don't follow tech. Once the dust settles, this will be a case study for decades to come. Apple threw their hard-won reputational gains off a cliff for _nothing_.

My non-techie friends either barely notice Liquid Glass or go "ooo this is nice!". It has annoyed me on occasion, but I barely notice it any more. Much ado about nothing.

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Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by thelastgallon »

Also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47504112

30 days later they canceled the ABM company account and deleted all the associated users along with the Apple ID which I used to log into a testing device, which now became a fairly expensive paperweight: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47516266

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by swiftcoder »

dghf wrote: post #127
raincole wrote: post #47

> Credit cards are not documents. Many people don’t have them. Apple don’t provide any other way to verify your age because they are a stupid American company with American values in which you’re just as human as your credit score. UK passed age verification law and people still find a way to blame the US.

> Ofcom, the UK’s communications regulator, praised Apple for the decision, especially since it’s not required to implement age verification for the iOS or its App Store under the region’s Online Safety Act. https://www.engadget.com/big-tech/apple-introduces-age-verif...

While Ofcom hasn't required it yet, they have indicated that they very much plan to[1]. Apple is pretty clearly getting out ahead of this, and simultaneously removing the burden of compliance off all of the relevant app developers (which seems in line with their overall privacy stance - I'm more inclined to trust Apple with my ID than I am some social network)

[1]: https://www.rpclegal.com/snapshots/consumer/winter-2025/ofco...

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by roger_ »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #15

I found this to be a very odd and strange rant. The author's three issues with Apple are: 1. Gatekeeping. OK, fine, but at the very least this has been Apple's stance for a very long time now (the author talks about faxing credit card details), so it's not like it's something new. If you wanted full unfettered installation rights, Apple was never the company for you. And while I think it's fine to argue against Apple…

Criticize gatekeeping all you want, but I feel it’s safer to recommend a Mac or iPhone to an older, non-technical person than the equivalent Windows / Android machine.

And I’m still able to install any app I want with minimal fuss.

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by alwillis »

aenis wrote: post #90
AdamN wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was probably a cascade of people but the question is whether we all realize Apple was right or if they just implemented it wrong or if it will just take a year or two to get things dialed in (but still prepared for an AR/VR world) and then we forget it ever happened.

It's a leadership failure. They obviously have a UI/UX dept. Those people want to be considered productive. Hence, they need to force a major redesign every now and then. Without a Steve Jobs like leader, those things will happen due to fundamental laws of corporate bureaucracy.

> It's a leadership failure. They obviously have a UI/UX dept. Those people want to be considered productive.

They had a guy who had no UI/UX experience leading the UI/UX team. He left for Meta thank goodness [1].

[1]: “Alan Dye Leaves Apple for Meta, Replaced by Longtime Designer Stephen Lemay” — https://daringfireball.net/linked/2025/12/03/alan-dye-leaves...

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