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Apple Just Lost Me

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Re: Apple Just Lost Me

#111
It's particularly culturally deaf to try to verify with literally "credit cards".

In the UK most people use debit cards instead for most things.

https://www.ukfinance.org.uk/data-and-research/data/card-spe...

Credit card usage is a small fraction of debit card usage. This is very different to the USA where there are more credit card transactions than debit card ones.

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

#112

I found this to be a very odd and strange rant. The author's three issues with Apple are: 1. Gatekeeping. OK, fine, but at the very least this has been Apple's stance for a very long time now (the author talks about faxing credit card details), so it's not like it's something new. If you wanted full unfettered installation rights, Apple was never the company for you. And while I think it's fine to argue against Apple…

> 3. Apple had a bug in their age verification protocol. Again, valid point, but Apple needs to follow UK law. No they don't. They need to grow balls. They pay hefty tax rates in UK. If they would announce they are leaving UK market in 90 days, I bet you would find enough politicians to change the course of this terrible law.

Why is it a US corporation’s job to unfuck UK laws? If they did get involved, you’d blast them for meddling.

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#113

The space allocated for "Apple has lost their way" has been maxed out for decades, so it bears stressing that this time is different. This Liquid Glass debacle has disillusioned everyone from hardcore Apple fans to normal people who otherwise don't follow tech. Once the dust settles, this will be a case study for decades to come. Apple threw their hard-won reputational gains off a cliff for _nothing_.

My non-techie friends either barely notice Liquid Glass or go "ooo this is nice!". It has annoyed me on occasion, but I barely notice it any more. Much ado about nothing.

Yeah I couldn't care less for liquid glass but it's not as horrible as people make it out to be. The amount of hate is irrational. New Coke vibes if you heard of new coke.

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

#114

The space allocated for "Apple has lost their way" has been maxed out for decades, so it bears stressing that this time is different. This Liquid Glass debacle has disillusioned everyone from hardcore Apple fans to normal people who otherwise don't follow tech. Once the dust settles, this will be a case study for decades to come. Apple threw their hard-won reputational gains off a cliff for _nothing_.

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Re: Apple Just Lost Me

#115
post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Gatekeeping. OK, fine, but at the very least this has been Apple's stance for a very long time now Are you sure you're not apologising for Apple?

Would you be surprised that your sports car uses a lot of fuel and get mad about it? It was sort of the deal when you bought it. Apple isn't shy about its gatekeepy behaviour, and some people believe that it's why Apples ecosystem is subjectively nicer than the Microsoft one.

Indeed. For many of us it's a feature, not a bug.

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#117
post #8

I like liquid glass. I liked it since the first betas i tried. Am i the only one

I loved Liquid Glass too. It gave a refreshing look from the UI that I was seeing for quite some years. It drew the line that separated itself from rest of the competitors UI wise. It felt good, I don't much remember the older UI of iOS now, every now and then when checking for compatibility with older versions, I test through older UI and it feels very awkward.

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

#118
post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tapping a UK passport to your phone works just fine for ETA apps and it would work just fine for Apple as well. The fact that you think American corporation punishing foreign users for their laws is acceptible is sick upon itself.

How many people have a passport vs a credit card? If you travel a lot, sure, but some folks never leave their hometown.

In the UK? Over 85% of people have a passport.

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

#119

> Credit cards are not documents. Many people don’t have them. Apple don’t provide any other way to verify your age because they are a stupid American company with American values in which you’re just as human as your credit score. UK passed age verification law and people still find a way to blame the US.

His complaints are that Apple only supports credit cards for age verification. Please read more carefully.

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

#120

> Credit cards are not documents. Many people don’t have them. Apple don’t provide any other way to verify your age because they are a stupid American company with American values in which you’re just as human as your credit score. UK passed age verification law and people still find a way to blame the US.

Right, Apple is a US company, with typical US culture, and they always try to "follow the letter of the law but not the spirit" when it comes to privacy and also when it comes to the age checks. In this particular case, they seem to have implemented the check in the worst possible way too, even the account age is above the age limit, what's hard to figure out here?

Is it surprising that people blame the company and the culture that fostered it, instead of the country that is trying to "protect itself", regardless of how misdirected that "protect itself" is?

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