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Resizing windows on macOS Tahoe – the saga continues

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Re: Resizing windows on macOS Tahoe – the saga continues

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Post by wpm »

Someone1234 wrote: post #49
cleaning wrote: post #35

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The defaults in every OS are set made for power users (i.e. anyone doing more than browsing the web and using office). With Windows you need to remove most of the cruft, Mac is no different; most people are using some combination of Raycast, Rectangle, Alfred, etc...

On Windows you have to change a few settings, on Mac you're suggesting all third-party software to manage core functionality. Apples Vs. oranges. I mean, yes, Windows has PowerToys which is an installed add-on, but on Mac we're not talking about Mac Vs. PowerToys, Mac isn't even competing with basic Windows features. PowerToys is competing with the PAID third-party software for Mac.

A few settings, huh?

https://gist.github.com/NateWeiler/f01aa5c6e8209263bc2daa328...

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Post by wpm »

igregoryca wrote: post #118
argsnd wrote: post #81

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A lot of the cursor weirdness on macOS comes from the window server owning the cursor and only passing events to active windows.

It's kind of nice, though, because you can click anywhere on a window to focus it. If you want to interact with a background window without focusing it, hold Cmd and click.

On every app but the System Settings app since it is so busted it takes 5 or 6 clicks before it focuses.

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Post by wpm »

eviks wrote: post #161
zapzupnz wrote: post #132

Resizing windows is easier when you don't have to grab the corner. Some people are talking about holding a key to resize on Linux but I don't want to be forced to use the keyboard. My favourite solution on macOS is an app called Swish which lets you do trackpad/Magic Mouse gestures to throw windows into corners, along edges, etc.

Why is keyboard a problem if your left hand is always on it? It's easier to do than a mouse only gesture and easier to remember

Sometimes my left hand is holding a coffee mug

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Post by pvdebbe »

metaltyphoon wrote: post #52
neodymiumphish wrote: post #7

I’ve tried many apps for window resizing on Mac, and none feel like they’re nearly as good as FancyZones (the PowerToys module for Windows). I don’t want secret squirrel key combos. I don’t want hot corners. I want two things: - Predefined zones à la FancyZones - Tied edges (there’s surely a better term for this) so that I can grab the edge between two apps and have them both resize together (one gets smaller as the…

I like powertoys but it’s taking 1.17Gig of space. That should be illegal

Common fonts are gigabyte downloads these days thanks to emoji support.

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Post by EnPissant »

accrual wrote: post #17
dgxyz wrote: post #13

It's bad when stock Gnome is better. That's where I am now.

Switched to KDE Plasma last month and very pleased I can have square-corner windows again.

KDE plasma is the best DE that exists right now (once you configure it to mimic gnome 2).

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Post by gf000 »

cosmic_cheese wrote: post #57
garciansmith wrote: post #42

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Yeah, it was one of those things I noticed when I first started using Linux and wondered why every other OS didn't just copy it.

Probably just simple resistance to use of modifier keys in non-technical users, at least on the Windows side. A lot of users never touch a modifier except for Ctrl for copy/paste and maybe Windows for start menu search. On the Mac side where key combos and modifier use is more widespread among users, it’s probably because there’s no intuitive visual that can be associated with the interaction.

It's not like Apple would frown about the idea of an action having "no intuitive visual associated with it". On iOS, you can scroll to the top by pressing on the status bar as one example.

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Post by hombre_fatal »

loeber wrote: post #160
anschwa wrote: post #136

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On macOS, you can enable window dragging by holding down the Control+Command keys with this command: defaults write -g NSWindowShouldDragOnGesture -bool true I use this with "three finger drag", and resizing at the window border hasn't been much of an issue for me.

MacOS is the "it just works" operating system. As such, I think the moment that you need to declare custom workarounds like this, it kind of loses its legitimacy, and you should already be in Linux land.

Windows is also the "it just works" operating system, and it has hundreds of useful things you can only do through registry hacks.

It's not a very useful test.

I look at the good things about macOS over desktop linux like how cmd-c/v works across all apps, and it would be amazing if it were just a cli command to bridge the gap.

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Post by create-username »

loeber wrote: post #160
anschwa wrote: post #136

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On macOS, you can enable window dragging by holding down the Control+Command keys with this command: defaults write -g NSWindowShouldDragOnGesture -bool true I use this with "three finger drag", and resizing at the window border hasn't been much of an issue for me.

MacOS is the "it just works" operating system. As such, I think the moment that you need to declare custom workarounds like this, it kind of loses its legitimacy, and you should already be in Linux land.

I found myself closing Linux windows sometimes only with alt+F4; sometimes only with ctrl+Q; sometimes with both; sometimes with none

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Post by pmontra »

ryukoposting wrote: post #179
sneak wrote: post #39

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> After command shift 4 to take a screenshot I think it's actually physically impossible to edit it within 60 seconds. This is completely incorrect, and the solution is way more discoverable than needing to know obscure things like Win+E. Click the thumbnail that appears in the bottom right, then click the marker icon. > For example, "open two file browsers, navigate to $home in one and $downloads in the other, move…

> needing to know obscure things like Win+E I'm sorry but this is a skill issue. This is the second hotkey you learn in Windows, after Win for start menu, and before win+left/right to snap windows to sides of the screen. Regardless, the whole flow both of you are talking about can be done on Windows without ever touching the mouse. Win+E Win+E Win+Left Enter Alt+D "destdir" Enter Alt+Tab Alt+D "sourcedir" Enter (arro…

I think that the only windows hotkey I know is Windows key to open the start menu. But I've been using Windows only 1994-2008, then Linux. I still connect to some Windows 10 / 11 machines of a customer to check processes and log files, but that doesn't matter.

And I hate windows snapping. I disable it in GNOME at every new OS install. UIs must fit people preferences and any single person is different.

Edit: of course I know Alt Tab too.

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