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Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Post by Ylpertnodi »

jascha_eng wrote: post #157
keiferski wrote: post #155

Projects like this remind me of a plot point in the Cyberpunk 2077 game universe. The "first internet" got too infected with dangerous AIs, so much so that a massive firewall needed to be built, and a "new" internet was built that specifically kept out the harmful AIs. (Or something like that: it's been awhile since I played the game, and I don't remember the specific details of the story.) It makes me wonder if a ne…

The problem really is that it is impossible to verify that the content someone uploads came from their mind and not a computer program. And at some point probably all content is at least influenced by AI. The real issue is also not that I used chatgpt to look up a synonym or asked a question before writing an article, the problem is when I copy paste the content and claim I wrote it.

> The problem really is that it is impossible to verify that the content someone uploads came from their mind and not a computer program.

Er...digital id.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Post by _heimdall »

cluckindan wrote: post #173
super256 wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yandex has the best image search, and others are years behind it. Further more Nebius has sold all group’s businesses in Russia and certain international market. They are completely divested from Russia for a 1.5 years already: https://nebius.com/newsroom/ynv-announces-successful-complet... The post you linked was posted when the divestment was already going underway, so it is at least dishonest if not malicious.

I wouldn’t trust a divorce where one party still provides for the other.

You don't "trust" a divorce is alimony was part of the settlement?

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Post by _heimdall »

Ylpertnodi wrote: post #181
jascha_eng wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem really is that it is impossible to verify that the content someone uploads came from their mind and not a computer program. And at some point probably all content is at least influenced by AI. The real issue is also not that I used chatgpt to look up a synonym or asked a question before writing an article, the problem is when I copy paste the content and claim I wrote it.

> The problem really is that it is impossible to verify that the content someone uploads came from their mind and not a computer program. Er...digital id.

Ignoring the privacy and security issues for a moment, how would having a digital ID prove that the blog post I put on my site came only out of my own mind and I didn't use an LLM for it?

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Post by Thorrez »

aDyslecticCrow wrote: post #109
GaryBluto wrote: post #20

Why use this when you can use the before: syntax on most search engines?

doesn't actually do anything anymore in Google or bing.

Searching Google for

chatgpt

vs

chatgpt before:2022-01-01

give me quite different results. In the 2nd query, most results have a date listed next to them in the results page, and that date is always prior to 2022. So the date filtering is "working". However, most of the dates are actually Google making a mistake and misinterpreting some unimportant date it found on the page as the date the page was created. At least one result is a Youtube video posted before 2022, that edited its title after Chatgpt was released to say Chatgpt.

Disclosure: I work at Google, but not on search.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Post by spIrr »

amelius wrote: post #140
justinclift wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you aware of Kagi (kagi.com)? With them, at least the AI stuff can be turned off. Membership is presently about 61k, and seems to be growing about 2k per month: https://kagi.com/stats

Be aware of: https://www.reddit.com/r/SearchKagi/comments/1gvlqhm/disappo...

Thank you. Didn't know that and was, until now, considering paying for a Kagi subscription.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Post by graemep »

jwr wrote: post #163
smusamashah wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are few other powerful countries, with countless Web services, who freely wages war(s) on other countries and support wars in many different ways. Is there a way to avoid their products?

Whataboutism doesn't get us anywhere — saying "but what about X" (insert anything for X here) usually results in doing nothing. Some of us would rather take a stand, imperfect as it is, than just sit and do nothing. Especially in the very clear case of someone (Kagi) doing business with a country that invaded a neighboring country for no reason, and keeps killing people there.

Why this particular stand? Is doing nothing any better than taking what are essentially random stands? Obviously if you are Ukrainian this will be an important stand to you, but otherwise doing things based on a mix of what the media you like focuses on or whatever is not really very different from doing nothing.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Post by hackable_sand »

retsibsi wrote: post #60
littlestymaar wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, being released on Nov 30th means November was still before the slop era.

In the end the analogy doesn't really work, because 'eternal September' referred to what used to be a regular, temporary thing (an influx of noobs disrupting the online culture, before eventually leaving or assimilating) becoming the new normal. 'Eternal {month associated with ChatGPT}' doesn't fit because LLM-generated content was never a periodic phenomenon.

AI R&D certainly was periodic. Good thing we put a stop to that!
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