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Re: Hemp ban hidden inside government shutdown bill

#182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought that was because of the tit-for-tat with Canada. I'd think a joint and a glass of bourbon would go hand-in-hand. Personally, I don't drink or smoke, but I think the "war on drugs" has been a miserable failure that has been, for the most part, a footgun.

> I'd think a joint and a glass of bourbon would go hand-in-hand. They don't. Drunkenness just kind of nullifies pot. I might have a beer when I'm stoned, but only a very tasty one, and only one. I think that extremely light pot smoking is killing alcohol sales. The tiniest bit of pot is just as pleasing as a mild alcohol buzz, and an alcohol buzz kills the effect of pot. I know I got in the habit for a while of smok…

In my experience, there is no such nullification.

Re: Hemp ban hidden inside government shutdown bill

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post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought that was because of the tit-for-tat with Canada. I'd think a joint and a glass of bourbon would go hand-in-hand. Personally, I don't drink or smoke, but I think the "war on drugs" has been a miserable failure that has been, for the most part, a footgun.

It is my understanding that neither Canada nor the USA allows for the importation of products containing THC, so I don't see this as having anything to do with Canada. Perhaps I do not understand what you mean to say?

Since tariffs were placed on Canada, Canada has been boycotting American industries like whisky, specifically because they are significant industries in Republican-controlled states. I don't know whether this move against THC is a response to that pressure, but that's the reference.

Re: Hemp ban hidden inside government shutdown bill

#184
post #159

This is going to be controversial because it steps into the shutdown blame game. I think I am more interested in the mechanics of how this happens. Why do we need to attach riders / sneak in legislation? What changes could we make to the constitution to avoid this?

Single subject bill amendment. Several states require single subject bills in State legislature. The same must be required at the federal level. The pushback has always been "then nothing will get done". From where I am standing that would be a good thing. No more sneaking shit in at the last minute. Vote on every single issue. People will still try to sneak stuff in. I remember seeing a video of a Minnesota legislat…

Hmm, I've never heard of this. My initial gut reaction is that this sounds good but the definition of 'single subject' is dubious. With enough leeway and creativity, anything can be a single subject.

But if it works, then maybe it's what we need.

Re: Hemp ban hidden inside government shutdown bill

#185
post #159

This is going to be controversial because it steps into the shutdown blame game. I think I am more interested in the mechanics of how this happens. Why do we need to attach riders / sneak in legislation? What changes could we make to the constitution to avoid this?

It's not the constitution. It's the American people (on average) who tolerate corruption and crime within their leaders.

Re: Hemp ban hidden inside government shutdown bill

#186
post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought that was because of the tit-for-tat with Canada. I'd think a joint and a glass of bourbon would go hand-in-hand. Personally, I don't drink or smoke, but I think the "war on drugs" has been a miserable failure that has been, for the most part, a footgun.

It is my understanding that neither Canada nor the USA allows for the importation of products containing THC, so I don't see this as having anything to do with Canada. Perhaps I do not understand what you mean to say?

You're missing the parent comment's point. Bourbon sales are way down significantly because the largest liquor importer on the continent (Liquor Control Board of Ontario) has banned the import of all American products. Many other provinces followed suit.

They can blame Trump, not go after Hemp farmers.

Re: Hemp ban hidden inside government shutdown bill

#187

The party of small government killing a new, billion dollar industry because Mitch McConnell's state beverage is seeing declining sales.

>The party of small government killing a new, billion dollar industry because Mitch McConnell's state beverage is seeing declining sales. McConnel sponsored the original bill. Kentucky is historically one of the largest hemp producing states. The whole thing just shows how inept the entire administration is. DJT 45 signed the original law himself, after it was drafted and passed by his Republican house and senate.

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Re: Hemp ban hidden inside government shutdown bill

#188

The party of small government killing a new, billion dollar industry because Mitch McConnell's state beverage is seeing declining sales.

I thought that was because of the tit-for-tat with Canada. I'd think a joint and a glass of bourbon would go hand-in-hand. Personally, I don't drink or smoke, but I think the "war on drugs" has been a miserable failure that has been, for the most part, a footgun.

I disagree. Legalizing drugs has only created larger black markets in states like California and allowed cartels to legally get into the business and gain more power in other countries.

Re: Hemp ban hidden inside government shutdown bill

#189
post #159

This is going to be controversial because it steps into the shutdown blame game. I think I am more interested in the mechanics of how this happens. Why do we need to attach riders / sneak in legislation? What changes could we make to the constitution to avoid this?

Single subject bill amendment. Several states require single subject bills in State legislature. The same must be required at the federal level. The pushback has always been "then nothing will get done". From where I am standing that would be a good thing. No more sneaking shit in at the last minute. Vote on every single issue. People will still try to sneak stuff in. I remember seeing a video of a Minnesota legislat…

Alaska is effectively a one-party state. At the federal level, you almost always need compromise to clear a filibuster, and it's easier to find compromise if you can draw on more subjects. Maybe the Democrats get cheaper health care while the Republicans get a giant bust of Trump installed on the former site of the Lincoln memorial. Neither measure would pass in isolation, but together they might.

Re: Hemp ban hidden inside government shutdown bill

#190
post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'd think a joint and a glass of bourbon would go hand-in-hand. They don't. Drunkenness just kind of nullifies pot. I might have a beer when I'm stoned, but only a very tasty one, and only one. I think that extremely light pot smoking is killing alcohol sales. The tiniest bit of pot is just as pleasing as a mild alcohol buzz, and an alcohol buzz kills the effect of pot. I know I got in the habit for a while of smok…

In my experience, there is no such nullification.

I. am. not. strunk.
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